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Post Icon Posted: Oct. 18 2007,7:06 pm Post # 1 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
OK whats the skinny :stupid  Mackey just sold his Bemmer store. Is this some sort of insider trading scam :rolleyes  :eek

Weren't they rolling 6-700 units a year :jumpie  why sell?

I know why :D  cause AutoNation has huge pockets  :jumpie

Edited by AZKC on Oct. 18 2007,7:07 pm

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I have some friends that have BMW's and all they say is " there is a reason it comes with all that warranty". :eek  :stupid

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Post Icon Posted: Oct. 19 2007,9:57 am Post # 6 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Wow, He did not indicate to me he was in that game....although when I wrote him to say I had sold he was surprised but not overwhelmingly....and now that I think back at what he said it makes sense. He had mentioned to me that he needed to expand again, according to BMW, even though he just built a new store just a handfull of years ago........get this: One week after he'd opened his new store BMW sent a letter demanding the signs be upgraded to the newest design!!!! Fricken signs were a week old. Thats the stupid crap we've had to deal with. :banghead  :banghead
Owners name is Pete Cunningham, probably one of the nicest car dealers I know, outside of myself of course  :D
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There is and has been a wave of dealerships sold in the last few years. Demands from the factory, particularly with facilities, have become rather extreme so some of the medium to small stores can't see a RIO. Then the best alternative is to sell to those that have the wherewithall to fullfill the factory demands. I myself could not see investing $15mil or more, continue dealing with the stress and worry that my investment may not pan out and loose everything.
In my opinion, the factory has gotten way to demanding but when they are riding the top of the wave they can get away with it. My prediction is BMW will end up with too many publicly owned stores that have tons of capital and may soon find they will be outnumbered.
At nearly the same time I sold my "little" store two HUGE stores in the LA area sold too, so the pressure from BMW not only has effected small stores but the big ones too.....owners are tired of getting pushed around.
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I'm gonna have to give Pete a call and see whats what. :phone

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Post Icon Posted: Oct. 19 2007,9:59 am Post # 7 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
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OK whats the skinny :stupid  Mackey just sold his Bemmer store. Is this some sort of insider trading scam :rolleyes  :eek

Weren't they rolling 6-700 units a year :jumpie  why sell?

I know why :D  cause AutoNation has huge pockets  :jumpie

He was selling between 40-70 cars a month.
The PHX stores are doing well into the 100's and sometimes over 200 a month.

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Post Icon Posted: Oct. 19 2007,11:17 am Post # 8 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Well the story is that AutoNation wants to expand the Honda(Dobbs) store thats next to Mackey, And they are going to move the BMW to a new facility. Mackey is keeping his GM stuff for now.

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Post Icon Posted: Oct. 19 2007,11:30 am Post # 9 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Quote (AZKC @ Oct. 19 2007,10:17 am)
Well the story is that AutoNation wants to expand the Honda(Dobbs) store thats next to Mackey, And they are going to move the BMW to a new facility. Mackey is keeping his GM stuff for now.

Sounds like an AutoNation method........they have totally ruined the store they bought just south of me..
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So like me, he kept his GM affiliated store(s)....you know he's a Saab pimp like me too ;):D

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Post Icon Posted: Oct. 19 2007,12:06 pm Post # 10 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
He's got Saab :stupid  Where in New Mexico? With his other stuff :confused

And Saab and GM are kissin cousins :stupid

Man I've been out of the loop to long :alien

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Post Icon Posted: Oct. 19 2007,12:09 pm Post # 11 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Quote (AZKC @ Oct. 19 2007,12:06 pm)
He's got Saab :stupid  Where in New Mexico? With his other stuff :confused

And Saab and GM are kissin cousins :stupid

Man I've been out of the loop to long :alien

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Post Icon Posted: Oct. 19 2007,12:56 pm Post # 12 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Quote (AZKC @ Oct. 19 2007,11:06 am)
He's got Saab :stupid  Where in New Mexico? With his other stuff :confused

And Saab and GM are kissin cousins :stupid

Man I've been out of the loop to long :alien

50% of the Saab car division was purchased by GM in 1991, they then had the option in  2001 to buy the 2nd 50%, which they did.
Although most of the Saabs are still designed by Saab peeps a few brand blendings have occured.
Saab 9-2x was a slightly reskinned Subaru Outback.
Saab 9-7x is a fully re-engineered Trailblazer/Envoy (its what Jan drives)
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Overall its been a good marraige with GM mainly for its global buying power, so the cost of building a Saab has dropped tremendously.
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Saab, or more appropriately Scania, is a leading builder of large semi trucks and passenger busses, the high dollar touring type of busses. Also a leader in aircraft building, passenger and more dominately in the fighter plane arena. Actually a very diversified company.
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Mackey's BMW store used to be in the same building with Saab before he built the new place......previous to his ownership it was called Grand Prix Motors.

Edited by Ziggy on Oct. 19 2007,1:00 pm

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Post Icon Posted: Oct. 19 2007,5:40 pm Post # 13 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Grand Prix Motors, wow that was a flash back. What a focking mess that places was. And you can only imagine the names people came up with  :D

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Post Icon Posted: Oct. 19 2007,5:42 pm Post # 14 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
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He's got Saab :stupid  Where in New Mexico? With his other stuff :confused

And Saab and GM are kissin cousins :stupid

Man I've been out of the loop to long :alien

Walk up to Mackey's GMC parts counter, if you turn around, on the back wall, there is a neat cut-away of a SAAB turbo...

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Post Icon Posted: Oct. 19 2007,9:19 pm Post # 15 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Quote (AZKC @ Oct. 19 2007,4:40 pm)
Grand Prix Motors, wow that was a flash back. What a focking mess that places was. And you can only imagine the names people came up with  :D

Thats going back a few years huh? :D:D

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Thats a trip in the way back machine for sure

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Post Icon Posted: Oct. 20 2007,8:43 am Post # 17 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
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Post Icon Posted: Oct. 20 2007,8:53 am Post # 18 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Quote (AZKC @ Oct. 19 2007,5:42 pm)
I break out in hives if I go in a Dealership Parts Dept, If you see me walking into to one, I will be heavily medicated :drink

Worked In Dealer Parts?? :stupid  :stupid

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Pretty much from 1984 :) Mazda, Hyundai(sounds like Sunday), Nissan, Dodge. Ford, Jeep, Chrysler and any thing else Click sold ;) Now I'm doing Big Trucks and Off Highway Equipment from Graders to Sewer Equipment, and any thing else a County would use :banghead

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My father worked in the Parts Department of a Chevrolet Dealership in Kaleeforneeya back in the 60's.....He liked it....

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Post Icon Posted: Oct. 23 2007,1:16 pm Post # 21 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Quote (Ziggy @ Oct. 19 2007,9:57 am)
Wow, He did not indicate to me he was in that game....although when I wrote him to say I had sold he was surprised but not overwhelmingly....and now that I think back at what he said it makes sense. He had mentioned to me that he needed to expand again, according to BMW, even though he just built a new store just a handfull of years ago........get this: One week after he'd opened his new store BMW sent a letter demanding the signs be upgraded to the newest design!!!! Fricken signs were a week old. Thats the stupid crap we've had to deal with. :banghead  :banghead
Owners name is Pete Cunningham, probably one of the nicest car dealers I know, outside of myself of course  :D
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There is and has been a wave of dealerships sold in the last few years. Demands from the factory, particularly with facilities, have become rather extreme so some of the medium to small stores can't see a RIO. Then the best alternative is to sell to those that have the wherewithall to fullfill the factory demands. I myself could not see investing $15mil or more, continue dealing with the stress and worry that my investment may not pan out and loose everything.
In my opinion, the factory has gotten way to demanding but when they are riding the top of the wave they can get away with it. My prediction is BMW will end up with too many publicly owned stores that have tons of capital and may soon find they will be outnumbered.
At nearly the same time I sold my "little" store two HUGE stores in the LA area sold too, so the pressure from BMW not only has effected small stores but the big ones too.....owners are tired of getting pushed around.
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I'm gonna have to give Pete a call and see whats what. :phone

So now what Ziggy?
What are going to do?
How will you spend your time?

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So now what Ziggy?
What are going to do?
How will you spend your time?

Just SAABing..... :D  :laugh

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I did a few years in auto part stores but was never able to get into a dealership. I got into a dealership doing PDI in hopes to get into the parts counter but never could. I laugh at the parts stores now. If their computers go down I would put money that they would not know how to crack a book to look up a part.  :good   :laugh
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I did a few years in auto part stores but was never able to get into a dealership. I got into a dealership doing PDI in hopes to get into the parts counter but never could. I laugh at the parts stores now. If their computers go down I would put money that they would not know how to crack a book to look up a part.  :good   :laugh

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"What Does That Part Do??"  :laugh  :D

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