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Posted: Mar. 03 2008,4:36 am

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LAKE HAVASU CITY, AZ -

English Village owner Chris Read's recent decision to sell the prime piece of Lake Havasu City real estate has sparked the expected reaction at city hall. Mayor Mark Nexsen said the city has begun the abatement process in an effort to tear down the property's dilapidated buildings -- a formal letter has been sent to Read from the city manager's office.

"Richard Kaffenberger sent the letter indicating that [the city] will be starting abatement proceedings to knock down those buildings. We're going to give [Read] a small period of time and he needs to contact us immediately in that regard." The mayor added that Read's surprising decision was the motivating factor behind the move.

"We have the right to begin abatement proceedings because of the property being in the condition it's in -- we just held off. Now that he's not living up to his agreement, we're going to start abatement. The building's -- in our own view -- need to be knocked down, destroyed and removed."

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Posted: Mar. 03 2008,6:03 am

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So what's going to happen, clear the place and rebuild modern!. :stupid

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Posted: Mar. 03 2008,6:19 am

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Quote (GoFastRacer @ Mar. 03 2008,9:03 am)

So what's going to happen, clear the place and rebuild modern!. :stupid

Going to put up a drive up Mc Donald's

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Posted: Mar. 03 2008,6:26 am

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Quote (lawbreaker2 @ Mar. 03 2008,7:19 am)

Quote (GoFastRacer @ Mar. 03 2008,9:03 am)

So what's going to happen, clear the place and rebuild modern!. :stupid

Going to put up a drive up Mc Donald's

Probably!.

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Posted: Mar. 03 2008,6:54 am

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Quote (lawbreaker2 @ Mar. 03 2008,7:19 am)

Quote (GoFastRacer @ Mar. 03 2008,9:03 am)

So what's going to happen, clear the place and rebuild modern!. :stupid

Going to put up a drive up Mc Donald's

That Would Be Interesting......A Drive Thru For Boat Traffic..... :stupid

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Posted: Mar. 03 2008,6:57 am

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Quote (Carrera Elite @ Mar. 03 2008,9:54 am)

Quote (lawbreaker2 @ Mar. 03 2008,7:19 am)

Quote (GoFastRacer @ Mar. 03 2008,9:03 am)

So what's going to happen, clear the place and rebuild modern!. :stupid

Going to put up a drive up Mc Donald's

That Would Be Interesting......A Drive Thru For Boat Traffic..... :stupid

Hey I thought of that first wayyyyyyyyyyyy back in 2000 when I was going to move there. It just was not going to be a Mc Donald's thats all.

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Posted: Mar. 03 2008,6:59 am

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Sonic Is Good!! :good

Mcdonalds Sucks!! :puke

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Posted: Mar. 03 2008,7:01 am

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A Sonic with a liquor license would be better. :laugh

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Posted: Mar. 03 2008,8:36 am

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Quote (GoFastRacer @ Mar. 03 2008,6:03 am)

So what's going to happen, clear the place and rebuild modern!. :stupid

That's the question. Only thing for sure is that 16 million price tag just went down, a lot. Might be the cities way of saying fix it or else.

Edited by WATERDOG on Mar. 03 2008,9:47 am

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Posted: Mar. 03 2008,8:41 am

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They already have 4 or 5 floating hamburger stands. At least 3 of them are for sale.

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Posted: Mar. 03 2008,8:47 am

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Quote (WATERDOG @ Mar. 03 2008,8:36 am)

Quote (GoFastRacer @ Mar. 03 2008,6:03 am)

So what's going to happen, clear the place and rebuild modern!. :stupid

That's the question. Only thing for sure is that 16 million price tag just went down, a lot. Might be the cities way of saying fit it or else.

I doubt that he'll come off of his price much. The big battle is that the developers want to put in time-share condos. And the city wants it put back like the 'good old days'. The problem is that at $16mil, you can't sell enough tee shirts and beads to make a living anymore....It'll be interesting to see what happens.

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Posted: Mar. 03 2008,8:55 am

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Quote (shueman @ Mar. 03 2008,5:36 am)

The building's -- in our own view -- need to be knocked down, destroyed and removed."

Once you knock a building down, isn't it essentially destroyed??? :stupid

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Posted: Mar. 03 2008,9:01 am

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Be sad to loose one of the last pieces that ties the bridge to the area...but it has been an eyesore for several years now.

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Posted: Mar. 03 2008,10:10 am

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Quote (tonedog @ Mar. 03 2008,8:47 am)

Quote (WATERDOG @ Mar. 03 2008,8:36 am)

Quote (GoFastRacer @ Mar. 03 2008,6:03 am)

So what's going to happen, clear the place and rebuild modern!. :stupid

That's the question. Only thing for sure is that 16 million price tag just went down, a lot. Might be the cities way of saying fit it or else.

I doubt that he'll come off of his price much. Ã‚Â The big battle is that the developers want to put in time-share condos. Ã‚Â And the city wants it put back like the 'good old days'. Ã‚Â The problem is that at $16mil, you can't sell enough tee shirts and beads to make a living anymore....It'll be interesting to see what happens.

I was told he paid 14 for it and was supposed to refurbish it. Most say he never put a penny into it. :stupid

I don't know.
What's the occupancy these days, 30% or so. I've never checked on rental rates, a lot of beads I'm sure.

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Posted: Mar. 03 2008,10:16 am

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Quote (WATERDOG @ Mar. 03 2008,10:10 am)

Quote (tonedog @ Mar. 03 2008,8:47 am)

Quote (WATERDOG @ Mar. 03 2008,8:36 am)

Quote (GoFastRacer @ Mar. 03 2008,6:03 am)

So what's going to happen, clear the place and rebuild modern!. :stupid

That's the question. Only thing for sure is that 16 million price tag just went down, a lot. Might be the cities way of saying fit it or else.

I was told he paid 14 for it and was supposed to refurbish it. Most say he never put a penny into it. Ã‚Â :stupid

I don't know.
What's the occupancy these days, 30% or so. I've never checked on rental rates, a lot of beads I'm sure.

I believe that he paid somewhere around $2 Mil, he tried to sell it to the city for $14.5 mil when all this started. And I don't know that any of it is occupied right now. There is the boat tours, vessel assist and boat rentals at the docks. But I'm not sure that the restaurant is on his land. I think that's the only thing open over there, that and the sno cone stand.

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Posted: Mar. 03 2008,10:18 am

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I don't remember what happened to the original proposal. When he first bought it he submitted a plan to rebuild the pub with another restaurant, bar and a cool Big Ben type clock tower. Then that went sideways and the condo talk started. I think that he's just letting it be an eyesore untill the city gives in and lets him do whatever he wants. I'm not up on all of the politics involved, this is just my oppinion.

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Posted: Mar. 03 2008,10:27 am

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Quote (tonedog @ Mar. 03 2008,10:16 am)

Quote (WATERDOG @ Mar. 03 2008,10:10 am)

Quote (tonedog @ Mar. 03 2008,8:47 am)

Quote (WATERDOG @ Mar. 03 2008,8:36 am)

Quote (GoFastRacer @ Mar. 03 2008,6:03 am)

So what's going to happen, clear the place and rebuild modern!. :stupid

That's the question. Only thing for sure is that 16 million price tag just went down, a lot. Might be the cities way of saying fit it or else.

I was told he paid 14 for it and was supposed to refurbish it. Most say he never put a penny into it. Ã‚Â :stupid

I don't know.
What's the occupancy these days, 30% or so. I've never checked on rental rates, a lot of beads I'm sure.

I believe that he paid somewhere around $2 Mil, he tried to sell it to the city for $14.5 mil when all this started. Ã‚Â And I don't know that any of it is occupied right now. Ã‚Â There is the boat tours, vessel assist and boat rentals at the docks. Ã‚Â But I'm not sure that the restaurant is on his land. Ã‚Â I think that's the only thing open over there, that and the sno cone stand.

Now there's a twist. Didn't he buy it in the last couple of years. This explains a lot. Nice little mark-up for the city. No wonder they said no. Off the subject, is that restaurant any good. The wife wants to eat there next month.

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Posted: Mar. 03 2008,10:35 am

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I'm not sure on the restaurant, I've only had margaritas there....always good on a hot afternoon!

But back to the Village, I think the he's owned for some time now. And if you remember some of our city counsel members and mayor getting recalled awhile back, it was all over this. And who was financially involved or not.

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Posted: Mar. 03 2008,10:46 am

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Quote (tonedog @ Mar. 03 2008,10:18 am)

I don't remember what happened to the original proposal. Ã‚Â When he first bought it he submitted a plan to rebuild the pub with another restaurant, bar and a cool Big Ben type clock tower. Ã‚Â Then that went sideways and the condo talk started. Ã‚Â I think that he's just letting it be an eyesore untill the city gives in and lets him do whatever he wants. Ã‚Â I'm not up on all of the politics involved, this is just my oppinion.

Fighting city hall doesn't always go so well. He calling there bluff at the same time they're fueling up the wrecking ball and D-9's. BTW, that old pub had some fantastic soup, and I'm not real big on soups.

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Posted: Mar. 03 2008,10:48 am

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Quote (tonedog @ Mar. 03 2008,10:35 am)

I'm not sure on the restaurant, I've only had margaritas there....always good on a hot afternoon! Ã‚Â

But back to the Village, I think the he's owned for some time now. Ã‚Â And if you remember some of our city counsel members and mayor getting recalled awhile back, it was all over this. Ã‚Â And who was financially involved or not.

I thought some city employee's went to jail for taking a buck or two.

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Posted: Mar. 03 2008,11:25 am

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I don't remember anyone going to jail, I just remember it was pretty ugly. And I don't think you could actually prove anything......

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Posted: Mar. 03 2008,11:27 am

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I thought the old pub was cool, too. Seems to me that the food was spendy, but the bar was fun. :beer

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Posted: Mar. 03 2008,11:50 am

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All I know is that it's been a run-down abandon'd eyesore for a very long time... :beat

You'd think that the city, with it's main economy being based around tourism, and one of it's main internationally known attractions being the London Bridge and English Village, could grow some 'nads and get the landlord off his a$$ and make improvements to his property.

If they can use Code Enforcement Regulations to harass residents over their awnings, motor home covers, and letting water run down the street, you'd think they could get this dead-beat slumlord to throw on some paint and get some business enterprises going in those empty buildings.

But hey, what do I know...it's just my observances.

Edited by shueman on Mar. 04 2008,8:22 am

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Posted: Mar. 03 2008,6:29 pm

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Can someone get some good pic's of this building, just for old time sakes, and I think I know what building your talking about, but when you first walk into the village what is that building to the right, one thing I did like is that little shaved ice hut on the boardwalk. Any pic's of that.

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