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North Dakota South Dakota wind power project.....



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Anyone want to know what the Achillis Heel of wind power?

Or rather, any alternitive electric generation, save for fuel cells?

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Anyone want to know what the Achillis Heel of wind power?


Ummmm, lack of....wind??

:stupid

:D

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Anyone want to know what the Achillis Heel of wind power?


Ummmm, lack of....wind??

:stupid

:D

Well... in a way... yes...

As people demand more alternatives forms of energy generation, a larger and larger chunk of the electricy is generated in those ways.  OK...

The problem becomes that FERC and NERC require utilities to have back up generation to feed the loads.  So for every kW generated by wind, there has to be a more conventional form of generation to back it up...

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Anyone want to know what the Achillis Heel of wind power?


Ummmm, lack of....wind??

:stupid

:D

Well... in a way... yes...

As people demand more alternatives forms of energy generation, a larger and larger chunk of the electricy is generated in those ways.  OK...

The problem becomes that FERC and NERC require utilities to have back up generation to feed the loads.  So for every kW generated by wind, there has to be a more conventional form of generation to back it up...

Is that where Nu-clear energy fits in?

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Anyone want to know what the Achillis Heel of wind power?


Ummmm, lack of....wind??

:stupid

:D

Well... in a way... yes...

As people demand more alternatives forms of energy generation, a larger and larger chunk of the electricy is generated in those ways.  OK...

The problem becomes that FERC and NERC require utilities to have back up generation to feed the loads.  So for every kW generated by wind, there has to be a more conventional form of generation to back it up...

Is That To Say We Should Never Have Elecrical Power Problems??

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Anyone want to know what the Achillis Heel of wind power?


Ummmm, lack of....wind??

:stupid

:D

Well... in a way... yes...

As people demand more alternatives forms of energy generation, a larger and larger chunk of the electricy is generated in those ways.  OK...

The problem becomes that FERC and NERC require utilities to have back up generation to feed the loads.  So for every kW generated by wind, there has to be a more conventional form of generation to back it up...

Is That To Say We Should Never Have Elecrical Power Problems??

That's to say that for every renewable generator installed, there's a coal plant somewhere that will pick up the generation.

Green is all about marketing.

I won't live to see the day that another nuke plant is built in this country, even though they'd solve a good chunk of the energy question.

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Anyone want to know what the Achillis Heel of wind power?


Ummmm, lack of....wind??

:stupid

:D

Well... in a way... yes...

As people demand more alternatives forms of energy generation, a larger and larger chunk of the electricy is generated in those ways.  OK...

The problem becomes that FERC and NERC require utilities to have back up generation to feed the loads.  So for every kW generated by wind, there has to be a more conventional form of generation to back it up...

Is That To Say We Should Never Have Elecrical Power Problems??

That's to say that for every renewable generator installed, there's a coal plant somewhere that will pick up the generation.

Green is all about marketing.

I won't live to see the day that another nuke plant is built in this country, even though they'd solve a good chunk of the energy question.

Hope I live long enough. Our new one up the street should be starting up in the next couple of weeks.

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California of all places is building a new nuclear power plant?  The last meeting we had here at work, someone asked about nukes, and we were told no new permits have been issued in this county since 3 Mile Island...

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Personaly I'm all for solar. If we can generate power via wind that would help if we can find a safe and efisiont(sp) way to stor extra power
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Personaly I'm all for solar. If we can generate power via wind that would help if we can find a safe and efisiont(sp) way to stor extra power

Super conductors...

There are a few transmission lines in Europe that are using "warm" superconductors... warm being a relative term of course, but I don't think they require a cryogenic plant...

Once that technology get's proven, then you'll start seeing ways to "store" generated electricity.  Not to mention the increases in efficiancy of electric motors.

One problem with solar is that the panels start loosing generating capacity when the temps get warm.  Of course, the places that the sun shines all the time... are hot when you need the generation.  There is a solar conentrator planned here in Tucson... a bunch of parabolic mirrors that have a tubes of water running down the center.  The focused energy turns the water to steam, which is directed to a steam turbine, generating electricity.  It'll be a good "peaking" plant, since it'll generate the most heat right in the middle of the day.

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And since it's late and I'm talking to myself... :D

Solar is fantastic for distributed generation... i.e. it works well when it's located at your house.  The advantage being that the transmission system doesn't have to support the peak load, instead the electricity is "delivered" right at the load.  Same thing for fuel cells.

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Hope I live long enough. Our new one up the street should be starting up in the next couple of weeks.

I heard talk of that didn't think it would happen though, where's it at actually!. :stupid

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Hope I live long enough. Our new one up the street should be starting up in the next couple of weeks.

I heard talk of that didn't think it would happen though, where's it at actually!. :stupid

Right off Hwy 74, south side, approximately 1/2 mile east of the 215 going to Hemet.

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Hope I live long enough. Our new one up the street should be starting up in the next couple of weeks.

I heard talk of that didn't think it would happen though, where's it at actually!. :stupid

Right off Hwy 74, south side, approximately 1/2 mile east of the 215 going to Hemet.

and the punchline?  :stupid

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Hope I live long enough. Our new one up the street should be starting up in the next couple of weeks.

I heard talk of that didn't think it would happen though, where's it at actually!. :stupid

Right off Hwy 74, south side, approximately 1/2 mile east of the 215 going to Hemet.

and the punchline?  :stupid

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I already am....it's not what t's cracked up to be!  :laugh

It's a fact of Life:

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But Do You Produce Electicity?? :stupid  :laugh  :D

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I already am....it's not what t's cracked up to be!  :laugh

But Do You Produce Electicity?? :stupid  :laugh  :D

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I already am....it's not what t's cracked up to be!  :laugh

But Do You Produce Electicity?? :stupid  :laugh  :D

Sure glad you didn't ask about natural gas deposits.

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Hope I live long enough. Our new one up the street should be starting up in the next couple of weeks.

I heard talk of that didn't think it would happen though, where's it at actually!. :stupid

Right off Hwy 74, south side, approximately 1/2 mile east of the 215 going to Hemet.

Ahh ok, I know where it's at!.
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I already am....it's not what t's cracked up to be!  :laugh

But Do You Produce Electicity?? :stupid  :laugh  :D

Sure glad you didn't ask about natural gas deposits.

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Hope I live long enough. Our new one up the street should be starting up in the next couple of weeks.

I heard talk of that didn't think it would happen though, where's it at actually!. :stupid

Right off Hwy 74, south side, approximately 1/2 mile east of the 215 going to Hemet.

I can't find anything on the DOE's site about a new reactor comming on line in California...

Here's the statement I found...

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No early site permits (ESPs) for California locations have been filed with the Nuclear Regulatory Commission and no company has announced any intention to build a nuclear plant in the State.


Do you know the name of the project?

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Hope I live long enough. Our new one up the street should be starting up in the next couple of weeks.

I heard talk of that didn't think it would happen though, where's it at actually!. :stupid

Right off Hwy 74, south side, approximately 1/2 mile east of the 215 going to Hemet.

I can't find anything on the DOE's site about a new reactor comming on line in California...

Here's the statement I found...

Quote
No early site permits (ESPs) for California locations have been filed with the Nuclear Regulatory Commission and no company has announced any intention to build a nuclear plant in the State.


Do you know the name of the project?

No but I'll drive by and see if they have a sign or something.

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Hope I live long enough. Our new one up the street should be starting up in the next couple of weeks.

I heard talk of that didn't think it would happen though, where's it at actually!. :stupid

Right off Hwy 74, south side, approximately 1/2 mile east of the 215 going to Hemet.

I can't find anything on the DOE's site about a new reactor comming on line in California...

Here's the statement I found...

Quote
No early site permits (ESPs) for California locations have been filed with the Nuclear Regulatory Commission and no company has announced any intention to build a nuclear plant in the State.


Do you know the name of the project?

No but I'll drive by and see if they have a sign or something.

:stupid  :stupid  :stupid

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