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Post Icon Posted: July 29 2005,10:34 am Post # 1 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
I was wondering if an MSD ignition would help with the performance of my boat.  I was told it would, I just want to make sure before I spend the $300.
The one I found was MSD 6M-2.
Thanks for your help.

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Post Icon Posted: July 29 2005,11:43 am Post # 2 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
They do livin up the engine but they also have a failure rate that seems a bit excessive. Some guys have no problems with them and other guys can't keep one running. I'm a big fan of the HEI with a performance kit installed  :good

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Post Icon Posted: July 29 2005,12:56 pm Post # 3 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
I'm not to hip on engines, what is this?
HEI with a performance kit installed

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Post Icon Posted: July 29 2005,1:14 pm Post # 4 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
HEI's are original equipment distributors on alot of Chevy motors. And you buy a better ignition module and coil from who ever you chose. And then its a good dependable performance distributor. Ck out Jegs they sell some all ready fixed up for around 150 to 200 bucks.

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Post Icon Posted: July 29 2005,1:42 pm Post # 6 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
I replaced my Mallory dual point distributor with a new MSD Billet drop-in unit on my 454 BBC. Im getting a few miles more per gallon and she starts like a dream now. First hit every time.  Will pay for itself in one season. :jumpie
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Post Icon Posted: July 30 2005,6:53 am Post # 7 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Quote (tunamaster @ July 29 2005,12:56 pm)
I'm not to hip on engines, what is this?
HEI with a performance kit installed

The H.E.I.(High Energy Ignition)is an OEM ignition that came out in 74 on GM products and is one of the most reliable units out there. The draw back is that they were made for the daily driver and not for performance and high rpm's, but with an aftermarket module and coil, it's as good as anything out there for reliability, and a hell of a lot cheaper!.. The MSD is a good ignition "WHEN" it works, and sometimes that's not too often and there is no warning, see more boats being towed in because of that!. I wouldn't put that POS on anything even if it was free!..
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Post Icon Posted: July 30 2005,7:50 am Post # 8 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
I've an Accel HEI with super coil and it's been reliable, I :good  still need to lock it out though.
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Why would you lock it out?, that just tears up starters and kills batteries!.. :stupid
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Post Icon Posted: Aug. 03 2005,2:42 pm Post # 10 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
I 2nd that.Why lock it out?Just give yourself 10 degrees initial and curve your dist. to give you your desired advance by 2000 rpm or less if you choose.Starts a hell of alot easier and doesn't tear stuff up.

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Post Icon Posted: Aug. 03 2005,3:22 pm Post # 11 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Hey I have a complete GM HEI With a performance Coil for sale if you want it.  $60.  It was on my old grenaded engine...

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Quote (MrCord @ Aug. 03 2005,3:22 pm)
Hey I have a complete GM HEI With a performance Coil for sale if you want it.  $60.  It was on my old grenaded engine...

Hey what coil and Module you have in it??, standard or tall deck???, I'm interested!.. :good
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Post Icon Posted: Aug. 04 2005,8:32 am Post # 13 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
:confused I would llike to tell you but I have no Idea...  On second look It just looks like a standard HEI...  But here are the pics... Tell me what measuremnts you need and I will take them...

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Post Icon Posted: Aug. 04 2005,8:32 am Post # 14 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
:drink I think the vaccum advance has been locked out.

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This was on the Old Grenaded ZZ502, I think it came with the crate motor?  Either way just let me know.   I was just keeping it for a spare in case the MSD took a crap...

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Looks like a bone stocker and if it came with the crate deal it is, well crap that's a little high think I'll pass thanks anyhow!. :good  Probably a good idea to keep it with you on the boat though with that MSD junk, could be a life saver one day!. :D  :good
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Quote (tunamaster @ July 29 2005,10:34 am)
I was wondering if an MSD ignition would help with the performance of my boat.  I was told it would, I just want to make sure before I spend the $300.
The one I found was MSD 6M-2.
Thanks for your help.

:confused I just got off the phone with a buddy sitting in a shop in havi. witha dead boat due to no spark.MSD failed, he was towed in and trying to get it replaced. It sounds like a tricked out hei would be a better choice :good

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Post Icon Posted: Aug. 08 2005,3:25 pm Post # 19 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
The problem with MSD's is that they are very criticle of quality of connections and grounds... both of which are hard to come by and maintain in boat.

If I were to run an MSD in a boat, I would get one of their ready to run distributors so when the box craps out, you can still get back to the ramp.

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maybe fit it with gm weatherpac connectors

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Quote (Sleek-Jet @ Aug. 08 2005,3:25 pm)
The problem with MSD's is that they are very criticle of quality of connections and grounds... both of which are hard to come by and maintain in boat.

If I were to run an MSD in a boat, I would get one of their ready to run distributors so when the box craps out, you can still get back to the ramp.

They still take a shit regardless, :(  and why have all that stuff when you can keep it simple with one reliable piece, not to mention saving a bunch of money!.. :D  :good
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Quote (tunamaster @ July 29 2005,10:34 am)
I was wondering if an MSD ignition would help with the performance of my boat.  I was told it would, I just want to make sure before I spend the $300.
The one I found was MSD 6M-2.
Thanks for your help.

:confused I just got off the phone with a buddy sitting in a shop in havi. witha dead boat due to no spark.MSD failed, he was towed in and trying to get it replaced. It sounds like a tricked out hei would be a better choice :good

Yep tipical scenario, seen a lot of that. And a friend of mine once lost two races because of those, went all the way to the finals and on the last pass it took a shit half ways, the last time he literally took it off and tossed it into the river!.. :D  :laugh
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:angry As of 7 am it still dont run. no spark, he is pissed :angry

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After my experiences I keep a auto parts store in my boat...

1-850 Holley 4 BBL
1-Alternator GM 1 Wire
1- GM HEI Dist
1- Lots O Sillicone
3 - Alt Belts
1- DUCK TAPE!!!
1- Full Tool Set
2 - Rolls of wire and connectors
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Now all I need is a trollin motor and Im set :banghead

Maybe I should also keep a shot gun to put it out of its missery :angry

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I have a MSD ready to run dist. in my '68 pu, and In the 10 or so years that I've had it, I have never had a problem with it. I don't run a box, just the dist. I can't run a HEI, because of clearance problems.

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