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Posted: Dec. 10 2004,4:54 am |
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Let me assure you, M1 Carbines are LEGAL in CA. The M1 Carbine is my All-Time favorite rifle and you can bet that I own, and am always on the prowl for more, m1 Carbines. As the laws pertain to the M1 Carbine, technically, there is a way that the "pistol Grip" can be legal in CA, and that is if it came to you that way in it's original military configuration (Assuming that you have a "Real" M1 Carbine and not a commercial one). However, most of the M1 Carbines that came in the original Military Configuration with a "pistol Grip" also have a folding stock, hence the "Paratrooper" model. The folding stock is a BIG no no in CA. The laws are vague on pistol grips. You can go to any sporting goods store in CA that sells firearms and buy a Mossberg 500 defender shotgun with a pistol grip on it, and that is legal. But you cannot buy an "Assault" style weapon with a pistol grip (Ar15/M16 series, AK's, etc.) It's all about PC.....Political Correctness in CA. The M1 Carbine does not "Look" like an assault weapon according to the politicians anyways, at least for now. So, fo4r the most part, as long as you don't convert them to an M2, install a folding stock, or get caught with a larger than 10 rd capacity magazine, for the most part they are legal in just about every other configuration. I myself have numerous high capacity clips for my M1 Carbines, but NEVER take them out of the gun safe when I go shooting just because of my fear of being charged/convicted of a felony if caught with, say, a 30 rd magazine. That little charge in itself, could end my ability to have the right to legally own any firearms in the USA.... Felony conviction(s) = No Gun Ownership in the USA. ANother loophole in the deal, as with the case with the M1 Carbine, is that ANY Firearm that is over 50 years old is classified as a Curio and Relic, and if made before 1898 it is classified as an Antique. C&R's and Antique laws in CA are the same as the Federal laws. I thank God every day that the CA state government hasn't tried changing any C&R laws....at least not yet. I sure love my 1943 M1 Carbine . As a footnote, I have received my C&R License from the BATF, and can now purchase firearms over 50 years old without a waiting period and the DROS fees. I just have to keep a "Bound Book" (Official Record) of all firearms purchased or sold under the Auspice of the C&R license. The $30 per 3 year fee is well worth it for a C&R License if you collect firearms. Just 1 purchase pays for the license fee in saved $$ of DROS fees that are usually $65-$75 each firearm. As for your firearms Art, yes, they would be legal to own in CA, if you were to move to CA and bring them with you. However, the "illegal" ones would have to be registered with the DOJ. They cannot make you get rid of something that you already own if you move to CA. Also, you cannot sell them to anyone that resides in CA if they are on the banned list. Now, on January 1st, our ability in CA to buy anything in CA in the .50 BMG caliber will disappear and all CA residents that own one by then are required (Yeah right) to register them. Seems our governor, the gun toting terminator himself, Ahhhhhrrnold, is not quite as gun friendly as he said he was. In fact, he has done the opposite on many things that he said he would do. I really can't understand this guy....one day he does a good thing and signs a good law, but the next day he does bad. I tell ya what, IF he decides to run in our next governor race, and asuming I'm still living in CA, Arnold definitely WILL NOT get my vote. Actions speak louder than words and acting Arnold. He even threatened to "Kick their butts" directed at some nurses in Long Beach a few days ago. Imagine that, Arnold threatening to beat up some women nurses, and hegets away with it. It may have been a joke, but if George W Bush said that, the outcry would be tremendous. I just don't get it and can't understand why Arnold still has such a high approval rating.......He's BSing an awful lot of Californians that's for sure.
 OBAMA=OneBigAssMistakeAmerica
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