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Well the big debate over Ford and GM is over, it has been settled and it's a done deal, both are "equal" and both are "JUNK"!.....  :rotflmao  :rotflmao  :rotflmao

Junk!
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Post Icon Posted: May 06 2005,7:43 am Post # 2 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

Quote (GoFastRacer @ May 06 2005,6:54 am)
Well the big debate over Ford and GM is over, it has been settled and it's a done deal, both are "equal" and both are "JUNK"!.....  :rotflmao  :rotflmao  :rotflmao

Junk!

Well I'm glad that's finally been resolved.  That issue has caused WAY too much stress in my life.  Now I won't have to keep certain friends apart anymore. :good

Now, if they can just settle the Coors / Bud thing, my life would be complete. :D






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Post Icon Posted: May 06 2005,7:45 am Post # 3 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

Ha ha...I can't believe they actually have a "Junk" designation.
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Post Icon Posted: May 06 2005,7:53 am Post # 4 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

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Well the big debate over Ford and GM is over, it has been settled and it's a done deal, both are "equal" and both are "JUNK"!.....  :rotflmao  :rotflmao  :rotflmao

Junk!

Now, if they can just settle the Coors / Bud thing, my life would be complete. :D

They're both junk too :D  :beer


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Well let's hope they rebound well.I'm sure they will both come up with a solution.Mabey we should reduce the amount of imports in our country.I know it's a free trade era but I bet they don't let us export as many as we import.

This might start a whole new debate"Which one is Junkier" :laugh


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Post Icon Posted: May 06 2005,8:21 am Post # 6 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

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Well the big debate over Ford and GM is over, it has been settled and it's a done deal, both are "equal" and both are "JUNK"!.....  :rotflmao  :rotflmao  :rotflmao

Junk!

Now, if they can just settle the Coors / Bud thing, my life would be complete. :D

They're both junk too :D  :beer

Go MGD!!!


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Oh shit, here we go again!. :D  :laugh  :laugh  :laugh  :laugh
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Post Icon Posted: May 06 2005,9:36 am Post # 8 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

Quote (GoFastRacer @ May 06 2005,6:54 am)
Well the big debate over Ford and GM is over, it has been settled and it's a done deal, both are "equal" and both are "JUNK"!.....  :rotflmao  :rotflmao  :rotflmao

Junk!

Hmmm...mebbe that's why Ford...who owns Volvo, just put a Yamaha engine in their revamped SUV? :stupid


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GM paid about $12 billion in interest on debt last year


Now that's crazy. :eek






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Dodge Hemi, what else is there to say!!!
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Dodge Hemi, what else is there to say!!!

:rotflmao  You gotta Hemi??  :D


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Dodge Hemi, what else is there to say!!!

:rotflmao  You gotta Hemi??  :Made by volkswagen daimler/chrysler sell out's

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And yes I do agree that Ford/GM are junk even though we own one of each. The only RELIABLE truck we own is our Dodge 3500 deisel dually 4x4 and cars have been import (Honda Civic and Toyota LandCruiser). On my 3rd tranny in the Chevy (112k) and 2nd transfer case on the F250 SD (52k) not to mention the Bronco prior to those with a blown engine at 75k. Sad to say, but it seems as though products are designed to fail
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160,000 on my 4x4 Blazer with no real problems.

I've got an 85 3/4 ton GMC back in Colorado, quietly waiting for a new engine that has over 200,000 on the O/D and still has all of the original running gear.

My old Ford Taures SHO was just traded in with 250,000 miles and was still running strong.  

Then there was the 89 3/4 Ford I owned that was still running at 300,000 miles, though to be fair I did have to put a new rear end in the thing at 190,000 miles and a transmission at 180,000.  

I had a Mazda 626 die on me at 150,000 miles.  :(

I guess it's just what kind of luck you have with the vehicles you buy.


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That's true Sleek. My brother has the same year/model Chevy (2500 crew cab 4x4) and drives twice as much under severe conditions and his is still going strong. The frustration is that I have maintained our vehicles and don't expect too much from them.... win some, lose some.
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Dodge Hemi, what else is there to say!!!

Cummins turbo 600 is what Im talking about :good
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Dodge Hemi, what else is there to say!!!

I like the hemi guys who think they're fast and then disappear in a cloud of black smoke behind me.  :D


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Quote (76 Hondo @ May 06 2005,7:07 pm)
Dodge Hemi, what else is there to say!!!

I like the hemi guys who think they're fast and then disappear in a cloud of black smoke behind me.  :D

You like that eh? :laugh
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Well I've got 106,000 on my 99 f250 Sd/PS and have done nothing except change fluids and filters.No mods just as factory.Nothing like blowing by just about every one pulling the hills to Globe with a 3700 lb camper and a boat and still getting 12= mpg's.


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i though gm owned volvo,   and by the way if dodge is so great how come the dealer down the street has a lot full of broken ones. :p


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Quote (Sleek-Jet @ May 11 2005,2:02 pm)
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My old Ford Taures SHO was just traded in with 250,000 miles and was still running strong. ... 

I believe Yamaha built the engine in the SHO didn't they? :stupid

I'll be rolling into 160,000 miles in my 2000 E350 Super Duty sometime real soon......which reminds me, oil change before next weeks run out to the river. :good


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Hey, I thought this forum was about the corporate financial options of the nations two largest automakers? :confused

I bet they wish they had a Hemi. Or at least some cash.
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My old Ford Taures SHO was just traded in with 250,000 miles and was still running strong. ... 

I believe Yamaha built the engine in the SHO didn't they? :stupid

I'll be rolling into 160,000 miles in my 2000 E350 Super Duty sometime real soon......which reminds me, oil change before next weeks run out to the river. :good

The SHO 3.0 was based on the Ford block and rotating assembly with Yamaha providing the top end(i.e. heads, intake, and valve train).  Yamaha built and assembled the powerplants, but it was a Ford design.    

I loved that car, one of the best engines I have ever been around.  Don't tell Demonstaz on HB, but those cars make Maximas look stupid.  And at the time they were being produced, they were one of the fastest 4 door sedans you could buy.

They were full of trick shit too.  Things like variable length intake runners and DOHC.  My 1992 SHO made just 5 less HP then the Mustang GT of the same year.  

But like all good ideas out of Detroit, they killed it off in 1996 and replaced them with a POS V8 that was slower and by all accounts a horrible engine.


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