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Thanks to Ziggy  :good  for the Denaming instructions.  We Denamed our boat out at Havasu in mid July.  We did not do anything when we renamed our boat to Last Call and the first time out I slipped and fell into the swim step and detached my Retina in my right eye.  After 8 weeks off work we followed the Denaming instructions from Ziggy and have had no bad luck since.

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Maybe REname it to "Last Fall"


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:good  Good I'll run it past the Boss


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Maybe REname it to "Last Fall"

I checked with the boss and she said Last Call it will stay.  I can't take any more time off work.


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Maybe REname it to "Last Fall"

I checked with the boss and she said Last Call it will stay.  I can't take any more time off work.

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:good Old Guys have to stick together, you know we been their and done it several times :beer


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Oh, now some people might believe in those superstitions finally :eek ........Sorry to hear about your eye, that couldn't have been very pleasant  :( but glad to hear you recovered from it. :good
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Now that you can see better can you grab me another Beer??
See Ya next week at Havasu, and thanks again for the great BBQ last weekend.

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TRADITIONAL VESSEL

DE - NAMING & (RE)NAMING CEREMONY 1

Required Items
1. Lots of liquid spirits for the guests – soft drinks, beer, wine, rum and other liquor

2. Lots and lots of food available for all to eat

A silver dollar – the older the better

4. Bottles of champagne for christening

5. Red wine for blessing

6. Ship’s Bell for ringing


Planning the Ceremony / Summary
a.  You must plan to put on a great show.  Show your boat that money is no object, and that you will do anything for it.  Show the vessel that your checkbook is wide open.  In fact, you want to make this boat really believe that you, as the newly adopted owners, will make life really terrific!  

b.  Pour a round of drinks for everyone who comes by.  

c.  Ring the bell to call the ceremony to order.  Ring it again to make sure that they heard it.  

d.  Ask your guests to give verbal comments about how nice your hospitality is.  You might think this is really weird, but the boat needs to hear others rave about your generosity.



Please Note: In the interests of brevity, we have eliminated some of the more obscure but conceivably important requirements which might have involved activities such as dancing about the boat with a chicken on your head, possibly naked and perhaps in violation of numerous laws, morals and regulations.


Our many thanks to Captain Peter W. Damisch for the research leading to this outline!     © P.W. Damisch   2002
Tradition and History
Want to change the name of your boat?  Heard  about the bad luck in renaming a boat?  It’s a big decision, but if done properly with due reverence there is no reason to hesitate.  Some say that when a boat is named it has been enlivened, and from that time on the vessel must be treated with the same respect that we would have for a person.

Renaming a boat is not something to be done lightly.  Since the beginning of time, sailors have sworn that there are unlucky ships and the unluckiest ships are those who have defied the nautical Gods and changed their names improperly.  Thankfully there is a way to change a boat's name without upsetting the various deities of the sea and air.

According to tradition and legend, each and every vessel is recorded by specific name in the Ledger of the Deep and is known personally to Poseidon, or Neptune, the God of the sea. Thus if we wish to change the name of our boat, the first logical thing that must be done is to purge its former name from the Ledger of the Deep and from Poseidon’s memory.

There are five necessary elements in this important ceremony:
·   invocation ·   expression of gratitude ·   supplication
·   re-dedication ·   libation.  

The ceremony should be read with flair on the foredeck before a gathering of distinguished guests.      
In summary: ( details later )
First: You must de-name the vessel. Bless the former name and allow that name to go to the everlasting sea. A simple thanks for it's former service, a good-bye to the original name and a blessing for it's past service.   Be sure to remove all traces of the original name.
Second: You must establish the new name Ceremony is required.  This is the fun part !!
Here are three possible ways to Rename a boat if the vessel has no name (new or un-named ). One or more of these methods work just as well. There are other methods, but these seem to be the most commonly used.
1st method
You must pour very good red wine (or champagne) on the bow and offer some to the God Poseidon (Neptune).  Pouring wine into the waters of the Home Port, then saying out loud the new name, asking Poseidon to bless the boat and all who ride within.  If it is a sailboat, don't forget Aeolus, the God of winds.  Both gods’ blessings required. Also, the Captain (owner), crew and guests should sip the wine as well (spill and intake quantity are not limited! The gods like generosity!;)
2nd method
After de-naming: Scuttle the boat out of sight of land for cleansing, then re-float and rename.  However, not many of us can do that one! (at least not on purpose)
3rd method
Have a Virgin urinate on the bow while renaming the boat and asking Poseidon's blessing.  The major problem is ........well, you can work on that one.

Bluewater’s procedure ( for some reason )  will focus on Method # 1.
Tradition and History    ( continued )

Red wine is the wine to spill as it symbolizes the blood of a virgin (which used to be sacrificed ).  In some cultures leather was used to cover boats and urine helped tan the leather.  Urine was also used to "wash" away old things and to clean wounds. Since boats were thought to have souls, when captured, the soul needed to have the old wounds washed away and re named to reflect the new owners culture.

The libation part must be carried out at the bow, as was the original naming ceremony.  You are advised to use nothing but the finest red wine (or champagne) and to pour it all on the boat. One thing the Gods of the sea despise most is meanness; so don't try to do this part on the cheap.

You should have a "de-naming" ceremony. The purpose of this is to prevent her from becoming confused about what her name really is.

First, in purging your boat, you must expunge and remove all physical traces of the boat’s old name before the ceremony.  This is an involved process beginning with the removal or obliteration of every trace of the boat’s current identity. This is essential and must be done thoroughly.  It is easiest to simply remove the offending document from the boat and start afresh.  Take all papers that bear the name ashore, including logbooks, engine and maintenance records as well as any charts with the name inscribed.   Be ruthless.  Remove the old name from the lifebuoys, transom, dinghy, and oars.  Don’t forget the life rings and especially the transom and forward name boards. Sand away, as painting over is not good enough.  You are dealing with the Gods here, not mere mortals and they will catch any error.  If the old name is carved or etched, try to remove it, or at least fill it with putty and paint over it.

Do not under any circumstances place the new name anywhere on the boat or carry aboard any item bearing your boat’s new name until the purging and renaming ceremonies have been completed, as this would be tempting fate!  Once you are certain every reference to her old name has been removed from her, all that is left to do is to prepare a metal tag with the old name written on it in water-soluble ink.

You will also need a bottle of reasonably good Champagne. Plain old sparkling wine won’t cut it. The last part of the ceremony, the libation, must be performed at the bow, just as in a naming ceremony. Two things to watch out for here: don't use cheap-cheap champagne, and don't try to keep any back for yourself. Buy a second bottle if you want some. Use a reasonably expensive brew, based on your ability to pay, and pour the lot on the boat. One of the things the gods of the sea despise most is meanness; so don't try to do this bit on the cheap.

Since this is an auspicious occasion, it is a good time to invite your friends to witness and turn the ceremony into a party.  You can read the ceremony with flair in front of a gathering of distinguished guests

N a m i n g   G u i d e l i n e s   / Boat Name Tradition
a.  Generally Named after Vessel’s Occupation or Something Personal For the Owner
– often feminine or terms of endearment

b.   Keep it Simple, Use your Imagination & Have Fun!

b.   Do Not:
– Name after a Ship of Misfortune ( Titanic, Lusitania, Andrea Doria, etc. )
–   Have a name, which is pompous, arrogant or threatening
– Give an Impressive Name ( name should be humble )
=> humble is more likely to pass unnoticed by the elements
=> haughty named vessel is bound for trouble
– Name after Larger Denizens of the Deep; Oceans, Winds, Storms or Other Cataclysmic Events that might offend the gods of the seas  
Will your boat name weather this storm?
1) The Explanation Test. How often do you want to explain what the name means?  
Bizarre Greek gods, in-jokes, and foreign words usually fail this test.  
Names that are difficult to spell fall in this category.

2) The Non-cute Test. How sappy is the name? Puns, childhood nicknames, and in-jokes usually fail this test.

3) The Brevity Test. "Brevity is the soul of wit" as well as the soul of boat names.  
Imagine repeating your boat name 3 times, followed by a "Mayday".
Still sound like a good name?

4) The Hubris Test. If you're racing, try not to pick names like "Magic Bullet", "Blew By You" (see test 2), or "Clear Ahead", unless you feel you can live up to them.

5) The "Been There, Done That" Test.  Don't name your boat after a type of wind (Zypher,
Sirroco, Breeze), any historical boat (Dawn Treader, Ra, Spray) or an alcoholic
beverage.  Unless, of course, that's what the boat tells you her name is.

6) The Embarrassment Factor. Imagine explaining your boat's name to someone you don't like,
and who doesn't like you. If grudging respect is not a possible outcome, you may wish
to reconsider.

7) The Corruption Test. What will your 'friends' call your boat?  e.g. White Hawk = White Cloud or Serenity=Senility.

8) The Omen test. Once followed a boat cutely named 'Das Broke' out one day. He promptly drove over a submerged section of break wall at high speed and sank.

9) The radio Test. "Over and Out" would be a bad name. ... "This is Summertime calling Over and Out. Do you copy?" Huh??

O r d e r   o f   E v e n t s

Opening Invocation
Blessing
Expression of Gratitude
Supplication & De-naming
Rededication & Renaming
Libation & Ceremonial Rituals
Honoring Gods of the Winds and the Seas
Christening
Party


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:rotflmao Holy crap, I could build a boat faster and maybe cheaper than this. :rotflmao this is the funniest thing I have read in a long time. But if i get to drink and throw a party i'm in :beer  :beer  :good


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:confused maybe I should just buy a new Hallett 210 and start all over :stupid  :stupid


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:cool it sounds like a good party. and didn't you still slip and fall? :cool


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Quote (stingray @ Aug. 08 2005,5:49 pm)
:cool it sounds like a good party. and didn't you still slip and fall? :cool

:laugh I was sipping  :beer  :beer but I don't remember falling this time  :drink


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ok, btw  :rotflmao nice ride i'd rename rather than replace :good


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