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Posted: April 07 2006,7:37 pm |
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Should sport/trailer boat owners/operators be licensed..??
What's your opinion.....I say yes.... 
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Posted: April 08 2006,6:46 am |
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My point is, you can go out and purchase a high-performance watercraft and operate it the same day....and it's legal.
Can't do that with other motorized vehicles, except maybe a John Deere lawnmower.... 
I would just feel a little more comfortable on the water knowing that the other vessel "might" have a clue... 
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Posted: April 08 2006,6:51 am |
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I don't think a license would be an answer. We give licenses in order to drive cars and yet theres a lot of morons that drive recklessly. I think that everyone should take a Boat Safety Course before they can drive a boat. IMHO
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Posted: April 08 2006,10:13 am |
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I think the fees and regs are downer, but some of the people on the water should atleast be exposed to the rules of the water
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Posted: April 08 2006,2:31 pm |
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I voted for the "Voluntary" program. A "Mandatory" program would only succeed in doin' the one thing that nobody wants; more regulation and control of our favorite passtime (after baseball, of course). Besides, mandatory or not, a license is still only as good as how the person carryin' it chooses to utilize the knowledge garnered to obtain said license. It's not about regulation as it is about good, old fashion common sense! When I started boatin' "oh-so-long-ago", there was less regulation, less LE presence, less "free-for-all" partyin', AND less accidents and "events". Boatin' was more of a lifestyle choice at one time than a "status symbol" choice. Now, don't go rippin' on me about that last statement before askin' yourself how many people you have seen runnin' a 100MPH "Hot Boat" that don't appear to have the sense that God gave a goose? Far too many and the numbers keep growin'! Then ask yourself how many of those people got into boatin' simply because their "neighbor" got a boat and they just had to have one too. I think you'll find out that the percenatge of the "status" buyers, who btw, "don't have the time or want to learn the rules of the waterways", will be quite high. I'm not sayin' that all new boat owners fit in this category; but far too many do! Sorry if I stepped on any toes; but that's my slant on boatin today.
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Posted: April 08 2006,9:01 pm |
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I personaly don't know the answer. But there needs to be something done. There are way to many people out there that just don't have a clue on what they are doing or where they need to be on the water. Just walking throught he mall or even the halls at work I watch how people manuver through the building or isles. The thing that keeps coming to my mind is that if they don't have lines to tell them where they are or need to be, they can go any where they want.
Next time in some shopping area or even at work. Watch how people move through out and put it in perspective of boating or even driving on the city streets. See if it drive you loony as it does me. 
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Posted: April 09 2006,8:53 pm |
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| Quote (gigamurph @ April 08 2006,2:31 pm) | | I voted for the "Voluntary" program. A "Mandatory" program would only succeed in doin' the one thing that nobody wants; more regulation and control of our favorite passtime (after baseball, of course). Besides, mandatory or not, a license is still only as good as how the person carryin' it chooses to utilize the knowledge garnered to obtain said license. It's not about regulation as it is about good, old fashion common sense! When I started boatin' "oh-so-long-ago", there was less regulation, less LE presence, less "free-for-all" partyin', AND less accidents and "events". Boatin' was more of a lifestyle choice at one time than a "status symbol" choice. Now, don't go rippin' on me about that last statement before askin' yourself how many people you have seen runnin' a 100MPH "Hot Boat" that don't appear to have the sense that God gave a goose? Far too many and the numbers keep growin'! Then ask yourself how many of those people got into boatin' simply because their "neighbor" got a boat and they just had to have one too. I think you'll find out that the percenatge of the "status" buyers, who btw, "don't have the time or want to learn the rules of the waterways", will be quite high. I'm not sayin' that all new boat owners fit in this category; but far too many do! Sorry if I stepped on any toes; but that's my slant on boatin today. |
I agree, boating has become more of ,"I have more money than that guy, let's get one of those big boats." and there is less respect for the rest of us. And agian not all , but some.
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Posted: April 10 2006,5:49 am |
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| Quote (gigamurph @ April 08 2006,2:31 pm) | | I voted for the "Voluntary" program. A "Mandatory" program would only succeed in doin' the one thing that nobody wants; more regulation and control of our favorite passtime (after baseball, of course). Besides, mandatory or not, a license is still only as good as how the person carryin' it chooses to utilize the knowledge garnered to obtain said license. It's not about regulation as it is about good, old fashion common sense! When I started boatin' "oh-so-long-ago", there was less regulation, less LE presence, less "free-for-all" partyin', AND less accidents and "events". Boatin' was more of a lifestyle choice at one time than a "status symbol" choice. Now, don't go rippin' on me about that last statement before askin' yourself how many people you have seen runnin' a 100MPH "Hot Boat" that don't appear to have the sense that God gave a goose? Far too many and the numbers keep growin'! Then ask yourself how many of those people got into boatin' simply because their "neighbor" got a boat and they just had to have one too. I think you'll find out that the percenatge of the "status" buyers, who btw, "don't have the time or want to learn the rules of the waterways", will be quite high. I'm not sayin' that all new boat owners fit in this category; but far too many do! Sorry if I stepped on any toes; but that's my slant on boatin today. |
Ditto, very well said!..
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Posted: April 10 2006,1:54 pm |
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| Quote (stingray @ April 10 2006,8:38 am) | | Quote (tunamaster @ April 10 2006,7:23 am) | | A license for boating and a license for pulling, or backing up a trailer. Â I swear it takes some people like 20min too load or unload their boat, and plus they are all over the ramp. |
For that just have a resident ramp valet, and tip him to back you in. |
I like that idea. Somebody should start that valet idea soon otherwise I will. 
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Posted: April 10 2006,7:21 pm |
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| Quote (eliminatedsprinter @ April 10 2006,9:48 am) | None of the above. I favor mandatory viewing of a basic water safety vidio and passing of a short test, when purchasing a new boat or PWC.
A license or permit will only be used by our state to harass and get more money from us. |
Rental Companies too..... 
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Posted: April 11 2006,8:48 am |
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| Quote (shueman @ April 10 2006,7:21 pm) | | Quote (eliminatedsprinter @ April 10 2006,9:48 am) | None of the above. I favor mandatory viewing of a basic water safety vidio and passing of a short test, when purchasing a new boat or PWC.
A license or permit will only be used by our state to harass and get more money from us. |
Rental Companies too..... Â |
Absolutly. The boat shops could issue a card that would prevent people from having to take it over and over again. However, it would not be a licence, it would be a one time deal, and the state and local gov would have no record of it, so they could not use it to harrass us or tax us any fees.
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Posted: April 11 2006,9:31 am |
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| Quote (tunamaster @ April 10 2006,8:23 am) | | I swear it takes some people like 20min too load or unload their boat, and plus they are all over the ramp. |
I can do it faster than that by myself with a 30' boat. People on the boat ramps just crack me up. I used to get mad, but now I just find it amusing how many truly stupid people are out there that have no business driving on the road, let alone on the water. It's not rocket science to get a boat on and off the trailer. 
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Posted: April 11 2006,9:47 am |
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| Quote (eliminatedsprinter @ April 11 2006,9:43 am) | I've got a radical new idea for dealing with people who have trouble backing down the launch ramp.
How about helping them out. Â 
That way they might get it done faster and perhaps learn to do it a bit better next time, rather than yelling and or ridiculing them, so they just get more nervous and take even longer as they mess up more. Who knows, that guy who today still has trouble launching, might be the guy we need to help tow us in someday..
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I've done that before on several occasions...
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Posted: April 11 2006,12:46 pm |
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| Quote (Carrera Elite @ April 11 2006,9:47 am) | | Quote (eliminatedsprinter @ April 11 2006,9:43 am) | I've got a radical new idea for dealing with people who have trouble backing down the launch ramp.
How about helping them out. Â
That way they might get it done faster and perhaps learn to do it a bit better next time, rather than yelling and or ridiculing them, so they just get more nervous and take even longer as they mess up more. Who knows, that guy who today still has trouble launching, might be the guy we need to help tow us in someday..
Just a whacky thought. |
I've done that before on several occasions... |
No doubt most of us have.
I've been into various types of boating for all of my 47 years and while I can manuver any type of watercraft well, I have to admit I still think I suck at backing the boat down the ramp with my RV. 
Edited by eliminatedsprinter on April 11 2006,1:05 pm
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Posted: April 11 2006,1:01 pm |
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My dad was stoped one time by a kid that had a jet ski and asked him to help back the trailer in to the water. My dad helped him out. If you ever want to teach someone to back a trailer up, go with a real short trailer. It makes them go slow and think about what there doing and where there going.
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Posted: April 11 2006,4:03 pm |
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| Quote (eliminatedsprinter @ April 11 2006,10:43 am) | I've got a radical new idea for dealing with people who have trouble backing down the launch ramp.
How about helping them out. Â |
I've done that before too, but I'm not going to spend my whole day at the ramp teaching morons how to launch and retrieve their boats, kind of like being in the big tie ups. Â I'm done babysitting. Â I go to the lake to have fun, not teach classes on things that people should fukkin' learned before they ever took their boats out. Â And not to play the big boat card here, but your perspective changes a bit when you've got 6 figures tied up in a boat and people with a $1500 potato chip, who likely don't have any insurance on it, are trying to wipe you out at the dock. 
Sunday just overwhelmed me with stupid people with no anchors, or anchors with 15' of line which will do you lots of good in 100' of water. Â Done with it. Â No more big tie-ups. Â No more idiots. Â I've got that magnet turned off now. Â 
Edited by jordy on April 11 2006,4:04 pm
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