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Post Icon Posted: July 21 2006,12:05 pm Post # 1 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

I have never known alcohol to make more power.  But hey what do I know.  I have been stuck on an island my whole life.   :stupid  

http://www.butanol.com/


Edited by Gilligan on July 21 2006,12:06 pm
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Loooks good... But I dont think they are going to mention any downsides on their site...




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Post Icon Posted: July 21 2006,12:49 pm Post # 3 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

I agree....

I will wait until the manufacture recommends it, because I don't need it to be fowling up my plugs, or valves or catalytic etc.. Just my .02
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Post Icon Posted: July 21 2006,6:05 pm Post # 4 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

This is just another version of ethynol.
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Post Icon Posted: July 21 2006,6:50 pm Post # 5 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

Quote (Bullitt Bob @ July 21 2006,6:05 pm)
This is just another version of ethynol.

Though I'm a Republican,,, we'll never see it with an oilman in the WhiteHouse.

It's usually argriculture based manufacture from either corn, sugar cane, sugar beets, switchgrass (celluose), and/or a few other crops.

Anything negative written about it is oil company exaggerated propaganda, and 99% non-sense.

Ford is building and selling 250 000 flex fuel capable cars each year, GM about 300.000 and rising. Everybody loves them.
Very big in Idaho, catching on in New York, and the midwest.

Brazil has reached 98% use and imports no fossil fuels, Hawaii will be there in about 3 years.

It's called E85 in the Ethanhol version. It's teriffic.

It's the future.


Edited by Trailer Park Casanova on July 23 2006,4:54 am


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Post Icon Posted: July 21 2006,8:49 pm Post # 6 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

Quote (Trailer Park Casanova @ July 21 2006,6:50 pm)
Quote (Bullitt Bob @ July 21 2006,6:05 pm)
This is just another version of ethynol.

Though I'm a Republican,,, we'll never see it with an oilman in the WhiteHouse.

It's usually argriculture based manufacture from either sugar cane, sugar beets, switchgrass (celluose), and/or a few other crops.

Anything negative written about it is oil company exaggerated propaganda, and 99% non-sense.

It's the future.

Wasn't Bush a "semi" oilman, at one time.... :stupid
He sides with them, that's for sure.... :rolleyes


Edited by shueman on July 26 2006,7:24 am
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Quote (Trailer Park Casanova @ July 21 2006,6:50 pm)
we'll never see it with an oilman in the WhiteHouse.

It don't matter the "oil conglomarate" rule, been for ages, all money and politics!.. :angry
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Post Icon Posted: July 25 2006,11:07 pm Post # 9 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

thats about it TPC!!!  :angry
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Yep!.. :angry
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Quote (Trailer Park Casanova @ July 25 2006,11:02 pm)

Thats freekin great!!!!


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Giving or Receiving  :stupid  :eek


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:bebe   Ok thats feekin funny   :bebe

Edited by MrCord on July 26 2006,10:20 am


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Post Icon Posted: July 28 2006,9:36 am Post # 14 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

Quote (Trailer Park Casanova @ July 21 2006,6:50 pm)
Quote (Bullitt Bob @ July 21 2006,6:05 pm)
This is just another version of ethynol.

Though I'm a Republican,,, we'll never see it with an oilman in the WhiteHouse.

It's usually argriculture based manufacture from either corn, sugar cane, sugar beets, switchgrass (celluose), and/or a few other crops.

Anything negative written about it is oil company exaggerated propaganda, and 99% non-sense.

Ford is building and selling 250 000 flex fuel capable cars each year, GM about 300.000 and rising. Everybody loves them.
Very big in Idaho, catching on in New York, and the midwest.

Brazil has reached 98% use and imports no fossil fuels, Hawaii will be there in about 3 years.

It's called E85 in the Ethanhol version. It's teriffic.

It's the future.

Agreed!!  I also believe the government could put a price cap on the gas price but never will.  I am sure the Republicans will loose the office the next election.
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Ive heard two stories on ethanol...

One that says it gets almost the same gas mileage as gas...  

Another that says it gets half the MPG of gas..


Can anyone clairify this for me? That knows for a fact? (And hasent just "heard")


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Perfect for boating!!!


Alcohol in the boats, alcohol in the passangers...  Perfect :drink


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Ethanol and Butanol will jack up your boat....depending on the blend.  There have been alot of PWC/2-stroke issues with fuel this year, mainly traced back to high amounts of these additives, upwards of 30%.... :eek  From what they have said, it burns leaner and will fry a piston very easily..... :beat

Here's a quote from a very reliable boater who also works in the oil industry in Texas:

Ethanol causes more problems than it solves. It costs MORE than gasoline, yet it sells for less because your tax dollars are spent to subsidize it. I don't like ANY government subsidies.

The oil companies are actively investigating alternative energy sources--energy is their business! When our government won't let them drill in areas that are known to contain vast petroleum reserves; when the government won't let them build a new refinery, they HAVE to find an alternative.

By the way, there are better alternatives to ethanol already. Euphorbia Lathyris is a plant that yields a better raw material, but the farmers want corn. What do we want to do, anyway? Create more energy, or keep the farmers from bitching? (You'll NEVER keep a farmer from bitching, by the way).

The high oil prices are temporary. When we get the remaining Gulf Coast refineries up to speed after the hurricane damage, prices should drop. Likewise, when tensions ease in the Middle East, prices should drop at lot.


Our current energy policy SUCKS..... :beat
Bush is padding the pockets of his cronies.... :banghead
We're being had, and the other energy companies *(gas, electric) are playing the same game, blaming it on the price of gas..... :angry
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