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The past year was the deadliest year on Arizona waterways since 1998, said Kevin Bergersen, Arizona Game & Fish Department boating law administrator.

In 2006, Arizona waterways were the location of 255 accidents with 153 injuries and 14 deaths, Bergersen said. "That does not count the two people who died in California or the two who died in Nevada, on the other side of the (Colorado) river."

The U.S. Coast Guard lists Arizona as one of the most dangerous states in the country in which to operate watercraft, with six of the nation's 15 most dangerous waterways, he added. The six are the Colorado River and Lakes Mead, Havasu, Mohave, Powell and Pleasant.

"We beat out Long Island Sound, Lake Michigan, the Ohio and Mississippi rivers and Chesapeake Bay," he said. One reason: more users, less lake.

The 2006 waterways record underscores the need for more boater education, Bergersen said. Some 78 percent of recreational boaters and watercraft users involved in accidents have never participated in formal boating safety education. Such training is not required in Arizona.

The top reasons for watercraft accidents are operator inexperience, weather, navigation rule violations and operating under the influence, Bergersen said. "Five out of the 14 fatalities this year were wind-related."....someone who falls overboard in strong winds may be unable to get back to the boat if the wind is pushing it away.

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Do you think it might have anything at all to do with your post about the DUI's??? :stupid


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I stop going to Havasu Because of the way people drive the big boats an the DUIS. Not fun to have your hole familey in the 22' open bow an then some 25-30 boat full of drunks going 100 10' from Ya. Been there done that. But we had a coupel of death last year on the lower part of Blythe also. so is just not Havasu where people are getting hurt. People need to under stand that its a privlage to be able to boat on the water ways in AZ,CA an if people new an old  to the boating seen dont pull there haeds out of there a$# we are all going to lose the privlage to run our boats on the water.I  :stupid  dont own a pool to float my boat .So the boat in the drive way in the summer going suck. Just my look at it.  I think it would be a good idea for boating Lic!

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Quote (GlassMan @ Jan. 03 2007,9:28 am)
Do you think it might have anything at all to do with your post about the DUI's??? :stupid

Seems like adult beverages do impact the stats.... :rolleyes  :D
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it would interesting to know which states that the people that were hurt/ killed were from.....


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Quote (Carrera Elite @ Jan. 03 2007,4:45 pm)
it would interesting to know which states that the people that were hurt/ killed were from.....

Prolly 50% Cali.... :D
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it would interesting to know which states that the people that were hurt/ killed were from.....

Prolly 50% Cali.... :D

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Quote (Carrera Elite @ Jan. 03 2007,4:45 pm)
it would interesting to know which states that the people that were hurt/ killed were from.....

Prolly 50% Cali.... :D

Yeah! :(

And I bet half of 'em are from AZ! :angry


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it would interesting to know which states that the people that were hurt/ killed were from.....

Prolly 50% Cali.... :D

Yeah! :(

And I bet half of 'em are from AZ! :angry

Half Of The 50%?? :stupid


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Quote (GlassMan @ Jan. 03 2007,7:05 pm)
Quote (shueman @ Jan. 03 2007,4:48 pm)
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it would interesting to know which states that the people that were hurt/ killed were from.....

Prolly 50% Cali.... :D

Yeah! :(

And I bet half of 'em are from AZ! :angry

Maybe 75%!.. :angry
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Quote (shueman @ Jan. 03 2007,4:48 pm)
Quote (Carrera Elite @ Jan. 03 2007,4:45 pm)
it would interesting to know which states that the people that were hurt/ killed were from.....

Prolly 50% Cali.... :D

Yeah! :(

And I bet half of 'em are from AZ! :angry

I'm looking for more details on the fatalities...not to be morbid but to quantify comments...

As I recall, it was more of a "mixed bag"....Havasu locals, Nevada residents, the AZ schoolteacher and the Cali boat driver, the Cali cheerleader, out-of-state vacationeers..... :(  and not all involved vessels in motion...

We personally witnessed three different accidents this year, two of them after dark at Site Six in Havasu.... :eek
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it would interesting to know which states that the people that were hurt/ killed were from.....

Prolly 50% Cali.... :D

Yeah! :(

And I bet half of 'em are from AZ! :angry

Yep, probably just moved here from California....... :D




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it would interesting to know which states that the people that were hurt/ killed were from.....

Prolly 50% Cali.... :D

Yeah! :(

And I bet half of 'em are from AZ! :angry

Yep, probably just moved here from California....... :D

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Quote (Fragile Magic @ Jan. 03 2007,10:39 pm)
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Quote (shueman @ Jan. 03 2007,4:48 pm)
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it would interesting to know which states that the people that were hurt/ killed were from.....

Prolly 50% Cali.... :D

Yeah! :(

And I bet half of 'em are from AZ! :angry

Yep, probably just moved here from California....... :D

Maybe....Maybe not!.. :D
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I dont think It matters where there from. I think the age matters and how long thay will sit in jail :fouet  for killing someone. I would say 50% from not Knowing the boating rules and 50% be under the influence! Theres a time to party and a time to boat! but not both behind the wheel of a boat.

Edited by redrockerfan on Jan. 04 2007,2:11 pm


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I'd say the worst one would be a combination of the two....


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I'd say the worst one would be a combination of the two....

Which happens much too often... :beat   :rolleyes
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Even the ones that do know the rules, after all the :drink  :drink  :drink they don't give a $hit anyhow!. :beat  :angry
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Quote (GoFastRacer @ Jan. 05 2007,4:57 am)
Even the ones that do know the rules, after all the :drink  :drink  :drink they don't give a $hit anyhow!. :beat  :angry

Oh so true...  :beat  :angry
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Coupla interesting slides from the NTSB.....

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Everybody boaters thorn....

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This one's interesting.... :eek  :beat

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:good Good Info. Shue!!  :good


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Very interesting!. :good
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Quote (redrockerfan @ Jan. 03 2007,9:42 am)
I stop going to Havasu Because of the way people drive the big boats an the DUIS. Not fun to have your hole familey in the 22' open bow an then some 25-30 boat full of drunks going 100 10' from Ya. Been there done that. But we had a coupel of death last year on the lower part of Blythe also. so is just not Havasu where people are getting hurt. People need to under stand that its a privlage to be able to boat on the water ways in AZ,CA an if people new an old  to the boating seen dont pull there haeds out of there a$# we are all going to lose the privlage to run our boats on the water.I  :stupid  dont own a pool to float my boat .So the boat in the drive way in the summer going suck. Just my look at it.  I think it would be a good idea for boating Lic!

NO WAY!!!! Yhey don't do this for real, do they, I would be in jail on the first day there. Cuz I would kill someone. :(


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