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Posted: April 02 2007,12:35 pm

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Beckys car hates me :stupid

Its starts fine with her key which is the "A" key with the light. But when I use my key, the spare key it won't crank, but if I use her key it cranks right up. Craziest dam thing I've ever seen. :pissed

I'm sure its just coincidence right :banghead

I'm thinking swapping the electrical part of the switch just for giggles. Any thoughts?

Also the sellers gave me a ton of the books and paper work on the car, but the one thing I don't have is the code for the radio, can you help a brother out

Can I get it with the VIN or do I need the SN# off the radio? I'll need it when I disconnect the battery to do the switch won't I :confused

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Posted: April 02 2007,12:54 pm

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Hmmmmmmmmm, so give Becky the spare and you keep the other

:D
Don't think your year model had the comp. chipped keys yet.
If replacing the ign components for wear its probably best to replace all three so everything is fresh, we've learned by just doing one its doesn't always solve the problem.
(Ign switch, steering lock portion and the key tumbler itself.)
I' d try just getting another key made off hers first, thats a cheap test.
or try pushing the key hard inward as your turn it and see if that has an effect.
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Send me the radio SN # and I'll see what I can do for ya.

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Posted: April 02 2007,1:10 pm

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Hmmmmmmmmm, so give Becky the spare and you keep the other

:D
Don't think your year model had the comp. chipped keys yet.
If replacing the ign components for wear its probably best to replace all three so everything is fresh, we've learned by just doing one its doesn't always solve the problem.
(Ign switch, steering lock portion and the key tumbler itself.)
I' d try just getting another key made off hers first, thats a cheap test.
or try pushing the key Â hard inward as your turn it and see if that has an effect.
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Send me the radio SN # and I'll see what I can do for ya.

She seems to get a chuckle out of the whole thing, She gives me the "It is my car afterall look" :laugh

No chip key, cause every now and then it will start with my key. Its according to how its mood I guess.

I'll get those numbers to you later this week. Looking for a CD changer, its all wired for one. May just go with an IPOD.

Need to reprogram the keyless transmitter, but I've got the book for that. Pass seat belt won't adjust down. Throw some new belts on it. And I get a wif of coolant after a long drive but nothing hits the ground. Overall I'm pretty impressed. You Krauts build a pretty dam good car :good

One of the things I show to people thats funny/kewl is how the window drops up/down when opening the doors

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Posted: April 03 2007,7:55 pm

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The radio removal seems to be different than I was told :say?

So now I need to get one of the special 5 side allen wrench tools to get it out :banghead

But I do have a plan. :break

Also how do you ID a BMW car with the EMS Immobilizer system? The key problems seem to point in that direction. It does start with my key but only after using the magic key :alien

Beck uses

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Posted: April 03 2007,10:33 pm

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Quote (AZKC @ April 03 2007,6:55 pm)

The radio removal seems to be different than I was told :say?

So now I need to get one of the special 5 side allen wrench tools to get it out Â :banghead

But I do have a plan. Â :break

Also how do you ID a BMW car with the EMS Immobilizer system? The key problems seem to point in that direction. It does start with my key but only after using the magic key :alien

Â Beck uses :confused

the key has a slight gold tint to it vs. the chrome look.

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Posted: April 03 2007,10:45 pm

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So Are You Sayin' kevin Has To Get A Gold Key To Start The Car??? :stupid

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Posted: April 04 2007,7:40 am

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Kinda like the Golden Ticket in Willy Wonka

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Posted: April 04 2007,9:54 am

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Quote (Ziggy @ April 03 2007,9:33 pm)

Quote (AZKC @ April 03 2007,6:55 pm)

The radio removal seems to be different than I was told :say?

So now I need to get one of the special 5 side allen wrench tools to get it out Â :banghead

But I do have a plan. Â :break

Also how do you ID a BMW car with the EMS Immobilizer system? The key problems seem to point in that direction. It does start with my key but only after using the magic key :alien

Â Beck uses :confused

the key has a slight gold tint to it vs. the chrome look.

Well I called the Mrs and she says the key does have a gold look to it compared to the other keys on her key ring. So that makes me believe the car is EMS equipped. But if thats true then I have a question. Would the EMS module remember the "chip" key for a bit? Because I used my key last night right after removing her key (2-3 seconds)and it cranked and started.

I truly do believe the Germans are still fighting WW2 by way of the BMW :pissed

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Posted: April 04 2007,10:16 am

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Quote (AZKC @ April 04 2007,8:54 am)

Quote (Ziggy @ April 03 2007,9:33 pm)

Quote (AZKC @ April 03 2007,6:55 pm)

The radio removal seems to be different than I was told :say?

So now I need to get one of the special 5 side allen wrench tools to get it out Â :banghead

But I do have a plan. Â :break

Also how do you ID a BMW car with the EMS Immobilizer system? The key problems seem to point in that direction. It does start with my key but only after using the magic key :alien

Â Beck uses :confused

the key has a slight gold tint to it vs. the chrome look.

I'll see what kinda info I can get for you....

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Posted: April 04 2007,11:33 am

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Yer my hero :good

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Posted: April 04 2007,12:35 pm

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Found this on AllData :comp

Every time the ignition is switched "ON", the ISN number is sent from the EWS control Module to the DME, as a digital coded signal. The numbers must match before the DME will release the driveaway protection.

The ISN is continuously sent to the DME as long as the ignition is switched on.
The DME will ignore the loss of the ISN after the engine is running.
The EWS - DME link stays active for 10 seconds after the ignition is switched off.
Restarting or switching the ignition on within ten seconds cancels the key identification procedure.
The EWS control module signals the transmitter / receiver module to cancel the key identification process.

ELECTRONISCHE WEGFAHRSPERRE

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Edited by AZKC on April 04 2007,12:43 pm

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Posted: April 04 2007,3:34 pm

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Quote (AZKC @ April 04 2007,11:35 am)

Found this on AllData :comp

Those last kraut words mean the Drive Away protection
Drive=Fahr
Away=Weg
Lock=Sperre
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Ya know Kev, I've been a little busy and haven't talked to my Service manager about it. It might be easier to talk with him directly so nothing gets lost in the messaging, he's a BMW encyclopedia so he might have the answer in seconds for you.
His name is Ken Burkey, I'll give him a headsup if you want to do that.
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btw---mention to your Insurance guy your car has this system, it could get you a discount.

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Posted: April 04 2007,4:41 pm

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No problem, I think I have found out alot of info that I can ck out on my own. If I need more help/info I'll get with you and you can let Mr Burkey know.

Once I determine for sure it has EWS and what level it is I or II. Then I'll know more what I need.

yer still my hero :good

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Posted: April 04 2007,5:18 pm

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You got it mon :good

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You're not gonna stalk me now are ya? I'm not the hero you think I am... :rotflmao

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Posted: April 04 2007,5:46 pm

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You just keep taking care of our woman and its all good

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Posted: April 05 2007,10:44 am

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Damn, by the time you're done with all this stuff Kevin, I may start taking mine to you instead of North Scottsdale. :beer

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Posted: April 05 2007,11:52 am

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I hate learning :banghead

, I'm to old to learn new stuff. :pissed

I told Becky I'm selling it and buying her a 1968 Chevelle

Well I did confirm it has EWSII, Tryed my key nada, Becks key started it right up, pulled her key out, quickly used my key and it started, removed key for about 15 seconds, car wouldn't crank, used Beckys key and it cranked right up. Very scientific :rolleyes

Now its time to go key shopping, this is going to be painful. I've read and heard over $100 per key :drama

And of course it seems the Dealer is my only option. Anybody know of a BMW hookup :rolleyes

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Posted: April 05 2007,1:04 pm

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I know of a tow truck that will hook up to your BMW just fine.....

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Posted: April 05 2007,1:13 pm

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you'll need to show proof of ownership and ID yourself....
There is a new 24 hr line you can order it thru too for emergency. probably more expensive.

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Posted: April 05 2007,2:21 pm

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Talked to Don Mackey BMW's Parts guy alot cheaper :good

than rumoured, $40 for unlighted, 2-3 days shipping, Hell for that price I'll buy a couple extras. Lets just hope all the proper info is attached to the VIN at BMW :rolleyes

cause they come preprogramed :alien

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Posted: April 05 2007,4:25 pm

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Quote (AZKC @ April 05 2007,1:21 pm)

Talked to Don Mackey BMW's Parts guy alot cheaper :good

Â than rumoured, $40 for unlighted, 2-3 days shipping, Hell for that price I'll buy a couple extras. Lets just hope all the proper info is attached to the VIN at BMW :rolleyes

cause they come preprogramed :alien

Should be ok unless the whole EWS system was changed at one point in its past.
BMW keeps 4 extra chips for each EWS system so once those run out you are SOL and have to replace the system.

:D:D:D
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Next time you walk in that store look for a guy name Earnie Buck(sales) and tell him I said hello........or the owner Pete Cunningham. They are really nice guys.

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Posted: April 05 2007,4:55 pm

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Should be ok unless the whole EWS system was changed at one point in its past.
BMW keeps 4 extra chips for each EWS system so once those run out you are SOL and have to replace the system.

:D:D:D Â

Why you gota be hatin. :drama

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Posted: April 06 2007,10:56 am

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Pretty swanky BMW dealer here in T Town. Keys on order should be here Monday or Tuesday. 2 Masters and a Valet for about a buckthirty :good

Now as along as Zig didn't jinx it :eek

this problem is done :alien

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Posted: April 06 2007,11:59 am

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Quote (AZKC @ April 06 2007,10:56 am)

Pretty swanky BMW dealer here in T Town. Keys on order should be here Monday or Tuesday. 2 Masters and a Valet for about a buckthirty :good

Now as along as Zig didn't jinx it :eek

Â this problem is done Â :alien

A buck 30 for something for a BMW???? Now I think you're just making shit up. I think that's what they charged for shop supplies last time I was there. :beat