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Thinking about a RV tow box for the family and don't have a clue on what's available.  Just something to get out of town for a few days for some R'n'R.  :cool

No motorized toys (yet), just bicycles and stuff, but gotta have enough creature comforts so mama will come along.

Ideas/input welcome... :good
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Whats the end result going to be, if there are toys how many? Also what are you towing with? you don't want to be "trading up" half way into it.

 With fuel prices up there are  alot of two & three years olds for sale also.

 some of the larger trailers are set up with 3 1/2 ton axles, others use 2 3/4 ton.


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Tony S is selling his Sandpiper, I been in it the thing is clean!.. :good

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Thanks GFR....I'm gonna hit the RV places over the next few days...maybe look at renting one and see if that's the direction we want to go....I've just got a F-150 Supercrew with the 5.7 Triton, so that will limit me somewhat.
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Good idea!. :)  :good
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Hey Shu, one thing to keep in mind is that Toy-haulers are very "tongue" heavy when not loaded with toys.  I've known several people that have gotten rid of them because of this.  

Also, if you want to keep the wife happy... two words... "slide out"...  :good  :D


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Quote (Sleek-Jet @ Dec. 07 2005,10:18 am)
Hey Shu, one thing to keep in mind is that Toy-haulers are very "tongue" heavy when not loaded with toys.  I've known several people that have gotten rid of them because of this.  

Also, if you want to keep the wife happy... two words... "slide out"...  :good  :D

Thanks, Sleek... :good  :beer
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Hey Shu, one thing to keep in mind is that Toy-haulers are very "tongue" heavy when not loaded with toys.  I've known several people that have gotten rid of them because of this.  

Also, if you want to keep the wife happy... two words... "slide out"...  :good  :D

One thing I don't like about them is they sit too high, I've seen them in moderate winds and they were moving around quite a bit!. :stupid Personally I'd rather have an enclosed trailer!. :good
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It's more for the camping and  :sleep  than the riding....mama has never been keen on smellin' fossil fuels in her sleep... :laugh
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It's more for the camping and  :sleep  than the riding....mama has never been keen on smellin' fossil fuels in her sleep... :laugh

I would look at conventional travel trailers or fifth-wheels if you really don't see yourself hauling toys around with it.  They are lower profile, easier to pull, and cheaper...  :good


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My monster TT...



I picked this up off a guy that had to sell it before he moved out of town... ended up getting it waaaaaaaaaay below Blue Book, it's a 2003 model.  Look around, lots of people need to unload these things.   :good


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That's a sweet rig  :good ....ya done good :beer

Your right, get out there and shop.....esp. private parties... :phone

When your really looking, it's amazing to see all the stuff that just sitting around in storage, un-used for years.... :rolleyes
With a TT, I could always leave it at the river during the summer and haul around the boat.... :jumpie

BTW, I had to steal your "fossil fuels" line...and KC's "burn some flesh"... CLASSICS.... :rotflmao  :rotflmao


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Quote (shueman @ Dec. 08 2005,6:36 pm)
That's a sweet rig  :good ....ya done good :beer

Your right, get out there and shop.....esp. private parties... :phone

When your really looking, it's amazing to see all the stuff that just sitting around in storage, un-used for years.... :rolleyes

With a TT, I could always leave it at the river during the summer and haul around the boat.... :jumpie

I wasn't even looking.  My brother knew the guy, he asked me if I knew anyone that was looking for a TT... I din't even plan on buying it at first, until I ran the numbers and found out what it was worth...

I didn't get to use it this last summer, do to several issues, but either I'm going to find a place to park it at the lake, or I'm going to store the boat up there and pull the trailer back and forth...


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Quote (Sleek-Jet @ Dec. 08 2005,7:23 pm)
My monster TT...



I picked this up off a guy that had to sell it before he moved out of town... ended up getting it waaaaaaaaaay below Blue Book, it's a 2003 model.  Look around, lots of people need to unload these things.   :good

Nice looking rig Aaron,  :good How long is it, you gonna be able to tow the boat behind it?? :stupid
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Nice looking rig Aaron,  :good How long is it, you gonna be able to tow the boat behind it?? :stupid

Too long...  :rotflmao it's a 37 foot TT... nearly 40 with the toungue..  :eek

Whoever designed this beast knew what they were doing, almost all of the weight is right over the axles, pulls like a smaller trailer.  No swaying or wandering behind the truck, it just sucks in and trundles down the road.  

Unfortunately, I can't pull the boat behind because it's not a fifth-wheel, and I would be waaaaaaaaaaay over length.  :D


Edited by Sleek-Jet on Dec. 08 2005,8:18 pm


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Nice looking rig Aaron,  :good How long is it, you gonna be able to tow the boat behind it?? :stupid

Too long...  :rotflmao it's a 37 foot TT... nearly 40 with the toungue..  :eek

Whoever designed this beast knew what they were doing, almost all of the weight is right over the axles, pulls like a smaller trailer.  No swaying or wandering behind the truck, it just sucks in and trundles down the road.  

Unfortunately, I can't pull the boat behind because it's not a fifth-wheel, and I would be waaaaaaaaaaay over length.  :D

I kinda thought it was a little long from the pic :laugh just wasen't sure, that would be way too long for sure :laugh But if you weren't too long you could tow the boat if you used a pintle hook!.. :good
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Nice looking rig Aaron,  :good How long is it, you gonna be able to tow the boat behind it?? :stupid

Too long...  :rotflmao it's a 37 foot TT... nearly 40 with the toungue..  :eek

Whoever designed this beast knew what they were doing, almost all of the weight is right over the axles, pulls like a smaller trailer.  No swaying or wandering behind the truck, it just sucks in and trundles down the road.  

Unfortunately, I can't pull the boat behind because it's not a fifth-wheel, and I would be waaaaaaaaaaay over length.  :D

37'...That's big...!!   :good   Put 'er up at Rosi....good excuse to take the week-end off... :laugh
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you could tow the boat if you used a pintle hook!.. :good

The first connection has to be a fifth wheel hook up......


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Quote (GoFastRacer @ Dec. 08 2005,9:43 pm)
you could tow the boat if you used a pintle hook!.. :good

The first connection has to be a fifth wheel hook up......

No it don't, if you tow two boats there's no 5th wheel, just can't have the same hitch on both!.. ;)
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ARS 28-1095 Section G-3



3. A recreational vehicle may pull two units if all of the following conditions are met:

(a) The middle unit is equipped with a fifth wheel and brakes and has a weight equal to or greater than the rear unit.

(b) If the rear unit has a gross weight of three thousand pounds or more, it is equipped with brakes.

© The total combined gross weight of the towed units does not exceed the manufacturer's stated gross vehicle weight of the towing unit.

H. For purposes of this section, "recreational vehicle" means a motor vehicle that is designed and customarily used for private pleasure, including vehicles commonly called motor homes, pickup trucks with campers and pickup trucks with a fifth wheel trailing device.


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I know I've seen guys do it in Calif.


With a 24' travel and small boat or quad trailer.


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ARS 28-1095 Section G-3



3. A recreational vehicle may pull two units if all of the following conditions are met:

(a) The middle unit is equipped with a fifth wheel and brakes and has a weight equal to or greater than the rear unit.

(b) If the rear unit has a gross weight of three thousand pounds or more, it is equipped with brakes.

© The total combined gross weight of the towed units does not exceed the manufacturer's stated gross vehicle weight of the towing unit.

H. For purposes of this section, "recreational vehicle" means a motor vehicle that is designed and customarily used for private pleasure, including vehicles commonly called motor homes, pickup trucks with campers and pickup trucks with a fifth wheel trailing device.

Ya missed one somewhere!. :D
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I know I've seen guys do it in Calif.


With a 24' travel and small boat or quad trailer.

It's been done for ages, I remember back in the 80's a woman used to haul two race boats for this rich guy to the races all over the country for a living!.. :)
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Quote (stingray @ Dec. 09 2005,4:01 am)
I know I've seen guys do it in Calif.


With a 24' travel and small boat or quad trailer.

I don't know how the Kaleeforkneea law reads, this is the AZ law....

(a) The middle unit is equipped with a fifth wheel and brakes and has a weight equal to or greater than the rear unit.


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http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/28/01095.htm


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