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Tim Wiltse
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Posted: Aug. 26 2007,12:44 pm |
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Hey guys,
First time poster here! I have been bitten by the jet boat bug big time. I have been doing countless searches on the net gathering info and such. I am of course looking for a "starter" boat. In doing so I have come across a couple complete hulls minus engines. While looking online I see that 99.9% of jet boats are running 460 Fords, 454 Chevys or 455 Olds engines. I understand that bigger is better within reason and that the big block engines have a little more TQ to them but why is there a lack of small block powered jet boats? I can build a real nice 350/383 Chevy but heck I can't even find small block motor mounts only the above listed big block motor mounts.
LAter,
Tim
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Posted: Aug. 26 2007,9:53 pm |
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Welcome aboard!..   Forget about a small block in a ditch pump gotta have the torque!.. But small or big block be ready to shell out for gas!..
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Posted: Aug. 27 2007,6:32 am |
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Welcome to Doug's Place...  Post a pic of your boat/hull...
At Eliminator, our stock motor for the 19'-21' boats is a 350 (I/O or Jet)...not many orders go out that way though... 
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Posted: Aug. 27 2007,7:04 am |
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Small block with an I/O in the smaller boats work pretty good, and pretty economical too!..
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Posted: Aug. 27 2007,7:13 am |
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| Quote (GoFastRacer @ Aug. 27 2007,7:04 am) | | Small block with an I/O in the smaller boats work pretty good, and pretty economical too!.. |
That's what I thought...we've had 2-3 go out since I've been hanging around there... Â Dependable powerplants.
We ARE having a lot of problems with the Indmar Vortec 8100's (454 ?)...had five(5) go back this season...  Â  Â 502's & 525's are fine.
They acknowledged the issues and might not going to offer that setup any longer...  Â 
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Posted: Aug. 27 2007,7:25 am |
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What seems to be the problem with them, electronics?.. 
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Posted: Aug. 27 2007,8:27 pm |
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| Quote (Carrera Elite @ Aug. 27 2007,3:43 pm) | | Quote (shueman @ Aug. 27 2007,7:13 am) | | We ARE having a lot of problems with the Indmar Vortec 8100's (454 ?) |
8.1=496  |
Thanks... Their breaking on the top end, I believe...I'll get some info from Kenny, as one boat has been replaced 3 times...
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Posted: Aug. 29 2007,5:28 am |
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| Quote (Carrera Elite @ Aug. 27 2007,8:31 pm) | | I have heard that some early ones had push rod problems, but I haven't heard of any problems with the later ones..... |
Using cheap junk from China maybe!..
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Posted: Aug. 29 2007,5:29 am |
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| Quote (WATERDOG @ Aug. 28 2007,7:04 am) | | No substitute for inches, opps, I meant cubic inches. |
Ain't that the truth!..
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Posted: Aug. 29 2007,7:55 pm |
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| Quote (shueman @ Aug. 27 2007,8:27 pm) | | Quote (Carrera Elite @ Aug. 27 2007,3:43 pm) | | Quote (shueman @ Aug. 27 2007,7:13 am) | | We ARE having a lot of problems with the Indmar Vortec 8100's (454 ?) |
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Thanks... Â Their breaking on the top end, I believe...I'll get some info from Kenny, as one boat has been replaced 3 times... Â |
Turns out to be the local supplier has been switching the oil pans....4qts instead of the normal 8qts....
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Posted: Aug. 29 2007,10:41 pm |
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only 4 quarts!!!??? thats noot enough for a 4 banger more less abig block.
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Posted: Aug. 30 2007,5:34 am |
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Wow, that is not good at all wonder what happened to this outfit!..
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Tim Wiltse
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Posted: Aug. 30 2007,5:53 am |
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They even make a 4qt pan for a big block?
Thanks for the info guys. I don't have anything against a big block just wondered what the reason was for not using good small block Chevy's. I am not looking for a boat to break any speed records just a nice solid running boat to have alittle fun with and pull a tuber behind.
LAter,
Tim
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Posted: Aug. 30 2007,7:02 am |
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| Quote (Tim Wiltse @ Aug. 30 2007,5:53 am) | They even make a 4qt pan for a big block?
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Yep since day one, standard on passenger cars low performace motors!...
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Posted: Aug. 31 2007,6:06 am |
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Selling oil pans on the side maybe!.. 
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Posted: Aug. 31 2007,6:57 am |
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| Quote (WATERDOG @ Aug. 30 2007,8:16 am) | | Quote (shueman @ Aug. 29 2007,7:55 pm) | | Turns out to be the local supplier has been switching the oil pans....4qts instead of the normal 8qts.... |
Can we assume that he has volunteered to pay all the repair and/or replacement costs. What is his reasoning for the change. Â |
Not sure...lower profile to fit under an engine cover maybe... 
We found it when one of the motors came back to Service and they checked the dipstick...the "full" marker was only 2" from the end.... They're usually 6"-8" on a 8qt-10qt...
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Posted: Sep. 06 2007,8:05 pm |
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| Quote (Carrera Elite @ Aug. 31 2007,7:37 am) | | So it was way over filled?? That's not good!! Â Â |
"under" filled...barely enough to fill the engine...
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