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Post Icon Posted: Jan. 06 2005,7:06 pm Post # 1 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Since I know NOTHING about mechanical stuff, and readily admit it, I thought I'd ask the group about some minor upgrades on our tow vehicle.

It's a 2003 F-150 SuperCrew.  Looking for suggestions on aftermarket mufflers to help it breathe easier.  Also, would a K&N Air Filter be worth the expense?  Maybe tweak the suspension as well.

It's pretty much mama's car to run around town the majority of the time.  Any recommendations are appreciated.

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Post Icon Posted: Jan. 06 2005,7:16 pm Post # 2 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Quote (shueman @ Jan. 06 2005,7:06 pm)
Since I know NOTHING about mechanical stuff, and readily admit it, I thought I'd ask the group about some minor upgrades on our tow vehicle.

It's a 2003 F-150 SuperCrew.  Looking for suggestions on aftermarket mufflers to help it breathe easier.  Also, would a K&N Air Filter be worth the expense?  Maybe tweak the suspension as well.

It's pretty much mama's car to run around town the majority of the time.  Any recommendations are appreciated.

Thanks!

I have a 2002 F-150 with a 5.4 liter.  I haven't done the full blown K&N filter kit yet, but I do use a K&N replacement filter in the meantime.  I, also, put a Flowmaster on and with both improvements, have noticed a little better performance.

I did the same thing to my 1989 F-350 with a 7.5 liter.

I put too many miles on my F-150 in the 3 years I've had it so I'm driving the old truck alot now. :)  It's a gas hog, but it's fun to drive. :good





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Post Icon Posted: Jan. 06 2005,7:41 pm Post # 3 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
BTW, Flowmaster has a bunch of different series of mufflers depending on how much performance you want.  The have some cool demos on their website that show the differences. :cool





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Post Icon Posted: Jan. 06 2005,7:51 pm Post # 4 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Get a K&N filter deal and a Flowmaster exhaust system for your application and besides you can't beat the sound!.. :good

K&N!

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Doug / GFR,

Thanks...!!!   :good  :beer

I've got a hook-up here in the 909 with the local Speedway shop, and the filter thing had also been recommended.

I'm ready for the 15k service and will ask the dealer to look at the suspension (it's free every 12k).  It just seems the ride is "sloppy", not nearly as "firm" as it was new.  I know, it's a FORD....wadda ya expect...!!! :laugh

Going out the I-40 with the boat this past year really pounded on the truck.  That road ain't the best, I'll tell ya..!!
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Post Icon Posted: Jan. 07 2005,4:55 am Post # 6 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Go with the cold air intake and the flowmaster 40 series muffler. It will breath a little better and sound cool to. Ive got a 2002 ford excursion with a v10 tows my 27ft boat great.

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Quote (procraftkev @ Jan. 07 2005,4:55 am)
Go with the cold air intake and the flowmaster 40 series muffler. It will breath a little better and sound cool to. Ive got a 2002 ford excursion with a v10 tows my 27ft boat great.

The Flowmaster 40 over the Big Block 50 or 70??

From the website (thanks GFR) it looks like the 40 has a little higher resonance....Don't wanna set off car alarms on my way down the street... :laugh

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Post Icon Posted: Jan. 07 2005,6:31 am Post # 8 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
It looks like everyone in here likes a loud exaust,but another option is magna-flow, it will give you good performance without all the noise.
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Quote (Duke @ Jan. 07 2005,6:31 am)
It looks like everyone in here likes a loud exaust,but another option is magna-flow, it will give you good performance without all the noise.

Thanks....I'll check 'em out as well...!!! :beer
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Quote (procraftkev @ Jan. 07 2005,4:55 am)
Go with the cold air intake and the flowmaster 40 series muffler. It will breath a little better and sound cool to. Ive got a 2002 ford excursion with a v10 tows my 27ft boat great.

The Flowmaster 40 over the Big Block 50 or 70??

From the website (thanks GFR) it looks like the 40 has a little higher resonance....Don't wanna set off car alarms on my way down the street... :laugh

Use the Delta Flow 50 series 3 chamber with a crossover. The 40 series is a 2 chamber and it is a lot louder, the 50 series will flow just as good on a tow vehicle and it will be a lot quieter but still have that cool sound!.. :good
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Quote (procraftkev @ Jan. 07 2005,4:55 am)
Go with the cold air intake and the flowmaster 40 series muffler. It will breath a little better and sound cool to. Ive got a 2002 ford excursion with a v10 tows my 27ft boat great.

The Flowmaster 40 over the Big Block 50 or 70??

From the website (thanks GFR) it looks like the 40 has a little higher resonance....Don't wanna set off car alarms on my way down the street... :laugh

Use the Delta Flow 50 series 3 chamber with a crossover. The 40 series is a 2 chamber and it is a lot louder, the 50 series will flow just as good on a tow vehicle and it will be a lot quieter but still have that cool sound!.. :good

It's an education every day....YOU DA MAN...!!! :good  :beer
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Quote (shueman @ Jan. 07 2005,8:07 pm)
It's an education every day....YOU DA MAN...!!! :good  :beer

Hey, just speakin from experience!.. :D
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The 70 serires Flowmasters sounds stock and flow better.  I've put a couple of their systems on my vehicles and have been able to do it in my driveway, all the pipes and hangers are in OE locations.  

The best bang for your buck though, would be a Hypertech programmer.

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The 70 serires Flowmasters sounds stock and flow better.  I've put a couple of their systems on my vehicles and have been able to do it in my driveway, all the pipes and hangers are in OE locations.  

The best bang for your buck though, would be a Hypertech programmer.

Thanks.. :good   That Hypertech unit is something...!!!
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Quote (Sleek-Jet @ Jan. 08 2005,5:57 am)
The 70 serires Flowmasters sounds stock and flow better.  .

That could be good and bad depends on the application, you have to have a certain amount of back pressure or it will hurt performance!.. :)
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Well, color me confused then.  Two posts back you're telling him to go with 50 series.  

I guess I'm missing something.   :stupid

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Quote (Sleek-Jet @ Jan. 08 2005,11:57 am)
Well, color me confused then.  Two posts back you're telling him to go with 50 series.  

I guess I'm missing something.   :stupid

You're saying the 70 series flow more than the 50 series, if you don't have a BIG motor, it could be too big of muffler!. :)
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Hey Shue.....I had Banks set-up my E350 Super Duty - V10 with their cat-back system (bigger SS pipes and free flow exhaust), Otto-mind chip and trans command and the K & N filter. I made a custom composite cold air chamber for the intake here at my shop since there is absolutely none availible on the market.

I realized a minimum 10% increase in gas mileage and the thing goes over the hill like a bat out o' hell with the boat in tow! :good

The guys over at Banks were a pleasure to deal with.

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What did it cost you for that banks setup?

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What did it cost you for that banks setup?

Yea, what he said.. :good
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I pulled the invoice. $1,612.96, installed at the Banks shop. (you should see that shop!;)

I realize I'm gonna hear a few "shoulda, coulda, woulda's", :beat  but it was the best price I got after a couple of call backs by them.

I'm very pleased with the improvement in performance, mileage and the overall job. And that's all that counts. :jumpie  

Now I'm see-sawing about the lift.

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I pulled the invoice. $1,612.96, installed at the Banks shop. (you should see that shop!;)

I realize I'm gonna hear a few "shoulda, coulda, woulda's", :beat  but it was the best price I got after a couple of call backs by them.

I'm very pleased with the improvement in performance, mileage and the overall job. And that's all that counts. :jumpie  

Now I'm see-sawing about the lift.

Looks like a pretty good deal to me... :good
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I actually wanted to gve them more of my money, unfortunately there is only so much they can do and keep it smog legal.

After doing a bit of research I was impressed by Gale Banks' credentials. Read his bio if you get the chance. http://www.bankspower.com/bio.cfm :cool

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Post Icon Posted: Jan. 18 2005,11:04 pm Post # 24 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
If you'd just simply swap out your stockers for some Chevy mufflers........You'd be on the right track.........continue this process until you own a Chevy!

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Id reather push my ford, then own a chevy tow vehicle :D

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