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Something so simple, 4 wires why does it take so much stuff :D

New technology remember, it ain't a 70's vehicle simplicity has gone by by!.. :D  :laugh
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Looks like you have enough stuff out to rewire the whole thing!! :laugh


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Post Icon Posted: Feb. 07 2006,9:29 pm Post # 103 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

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So it had one of the adapter kits on it for a clean install but it was for the flat 4 pin connector, and the ground was a joke. I wanted to keep the 4 pin for any other trailer I may tow but the Blue Canoe trailer is set up with the round 6 pin. So I just T-Tapped into the harness and it was a done deal. While I was in there I took apart the old connections to clean them up and put some Dielectric grease on them. They were pretty corroded.

I've got 2 extra pins on the trailer plugged that I wired up. I'm wanting to put back-up lights on the trailer. So that will take one and I'll save the other if I ever need a feed for electric brakes.

It's to late now, but did you think of doing a new style 7 plug? if you run electric brakes the trailer will need a battery and the truck can supply a hot lead to charge, then adapt backwards down to other trailers. then you could tow anything, travel trailers, boats, I have a pig tail with 7 leads and bullit connectors on the ends for about any hookup.


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So it had one of the adapter kits on it for a clean install but it was for the flat 4 pin connector, and the ground was a joke. I wanted to keep the 4 pin for any other trailer I may tow but the Blue Canoe trailer is set up with the round 6 pin. So I just T-Tapped into the harness and it was a done deal. While I was in there I took apart the old connections to clean them up and put some Dielectric grease on them. They were pretty corroded.

I've got 2 extra pins on the trailer plugged that I wired up. I'm wanting to put back-up lights on the trailer. So that will take one and I'll save the other if I ever need a feed for electric brakes.

It's to late now, but did you think of doing a new style 7 plug? if you run electric brakes the trailer will need a battery and the truck can supply a hot lead to charge, then adapt backwards down to other trailers. then you could tow anything, travel trailers, boats, I have a pig tail with 7 leads and bullit connectors on the ends for about any hookup.

I don't understand, why would the trailer need a battery??, my flatbed has electric brakes and it don't need a battery!.. :stupid
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Post Icon Posted: Feb. 08 2006,8:16 am Post # 105 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

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So it had one of the adapter kits on it for a clean install but it was for the flat 4 pin connector, and the ground was a joke. I wanted to keep the 4 pin for any other trailer I may tow but the Blue Canoe trailer is set up with the round 6 pin. So I just T-Tapped into the harness and it was a done deal. While I was in there I took apart the old connections to clean them up and put some Dielectric grease on them. They were pretty corroded.

I've got 2 extra pins on the trailer plugged that I wired up. I'm wanting to put back-up lights on the trailer. So that will take one and I'll save the other if I ever need a feed for electric brakes.

It's to late now, but did you think of doing a new style 7 plug? if you run electric brakes the trailer will need a battery and the truck can supply a hot lead to charge, then adapt backwards down to other trailers. then you could tow anything, travel trailers, boats, I have a pig tail with 7 leads and bullit connectors on the ends for about any hookup.

I don't understand, why would the trailer need a battery??, my flatbed has electric brakes and it don't need a battery!.. :stupid

I don't know about Az. but most new trailers in Ca. come with this type of setup. if that trailer comes loose and gets away from the truck, what good is electric brakes if there is no power source to apply them?  At work we had a Vacume brake setup on our old trailers, they retrofitted all of them to electric with a dry cell and a solar panel. It also needs a brakeaway switch to apply them. I just rebuilt my buggy trailer and set it up that way, it had a battery for the electric winch, all I added was a charge wire from the truck and the brake away switch

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Post Icon Posted: Feb. 08 2006,8:17 am Post # 106 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

diagram :D

26304.  (a) Power brakes on any trailer or semitrailer manufactured
after December 31, 1955, operated over public highways and required
to be equipped with brakes shall be designed to be automatically
applied upon breakaway from the towing vehicle and shall be capable
of stopping and holding such vehicle stationary for not less than 15
minutes.

 


per Ca VEHICLE CODE


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That's weird, I bought mine in CA in 93 and nothing was said about it.  :stupid Of course I bought it to move my shit over here so I didn't register it in CA, and when I took it to MVD here to register it nothing was said about it either!.. :stupid  I know semi's have to have it that's nationwde!..
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Haven't heard about the aux battery deal. All our trailers(small) here at the County just use the old school electric brake set up. I don't know if I would want a battery on my boat trailer that keeps getting dunked in the water :stupid

I set the plug up to use electric brakes if need be, I run surge brakes right now with a emergency breakaway.


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Post Icon Posted: Feb. 08 2006,9:57 am Post # 109 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

A buddy just bought a carson brand new and it doesn't have one, I did it because all I needed was the switch, I've had plenty of trailers without. :stupid

The point was add all you can to the plug then adapt to use what you need, that way it's clean and new :D

This it what I carry In my excursion.

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Hitches under the truck :good

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Clean setup. Hopefully I never have to pull that many different set ups. But its good to be prepared :good


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Post Icon Posted: Feb. 08 2006,12:39 pm Post # 113 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

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Quote (AZKC @ Feb. 07 2006,8:18 pm)
Something so simple, 4 wires why does it take so much stuff :D

New technology remember, it ain't a 70's vehicle simplicity has gone by by!.. :D  :laugh

Actually... on the trucks the year of KC's and mine (early to mid 90's), the trailer wires were pigtailed and wrapped up, on the harness across the back, from the factory.  All you had to do was buy a connector and splice it on.  

I didn't know that, until I was about to wire the Blazer for lights.  My boss at work was a part time mechanic and he told be about the wires already being there.  Shoot, GM even provided both charging and brake power wires.  All that was required was to hook them up.  It's pretty slick.

Alot of the GM trucks of the early 90's vintage have been hacked up when they didn't have to be.

I think KC said that someone had already spliced into his with a T adapter.


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Alot of the GM trucks of the early 90's vintage have been hacked up when they didn't have to be.

That can be said for just about all year vehicles!.. :D  :laugh
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Hitches under the truck :good

Cool setup!.. :good

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Works ok, I've done something like it on most trucks I own, that way the hitches stay with the truck and are not rolling around in the bed or stuck out of the hitch to trip over.  :good


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Works ok, I've done something like it on most trucks I own, that way the hitches stay with the truck and are not rolling around in the bed or stuck out of the hitch to trip over.  :good

Yeah I hear that, them hitches sticking out are just the right height to catch the shins, man does that hurt, LOL.. :laugh And when you put them in the bed, for some reason they always end up at the front, wonder why!.. :laugh
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I keep mine locked in the tow position..... :D


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Big Tow....I leave the little stuff for you others.....  :laugh  :D


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I keep mine locked in the tow position..... :D

Yeah I did that too until I got tired of whackin a shin everytime I walked behind the truck!.. And that would be the "Big Tow"!... :D  :laugh
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If I took the draw bar on and off everytime that I towed something, the hitch and draw bar would be worn out by now....  :laugh


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I keep mine locked in the tow position..... :D

Yeah I did that too until I got tired of whackin a shin everytime I walked behind the truck!.. And that would be the "Big Tow"!... :D  :laugh

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Quote (Carrera Elite @ Feb. 09 2006,9:43 pm)
I keep mine locked in the tow position..... :D

Yeah I did that too until I got tired of whackin a shin everytime I walked behind the truck!.. And that would be the "Big Tow"!... :D  :laugh

Word of advise... when your walker hits something... stop... :D  :bebe  :peace :D :D

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