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Post Icon Posted: April 13 2008,8:08 am Post # 1 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Thanks Jiffy Lube... :pissed  

Got the oil changed and they talked me into the 50k recommended fuel system treatment / filter replacement last Saturday.

Friday it drove fine, then would not start that evening (starving for fuel), guage needles bouncing all over the place, etc.  It's be warm (90+) air temps as well.

Saturday morning, fired right up.  No needle bounce.  Drove it around for a little bit, then last night it did the same thing and won't fire this morning.

It might me a fuse, gonna go check them now and look for a reset button, etc.  It's parked in a public place, so I just might get it towed to the dealer and have them fix it on Monday.

Any other ideas from the mechanical guru's around here..??

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Have you talked to Jiffy, probably a waste of time.

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Post Icon Posted: April 13 2008,8:52 am Post # 3 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Just got back from the truck.  There's a Fuel Reset button and a fuse panel in the engine compartment, but I can't find EITHER... :beat   Headed back out, AAA is on their way... :good
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Post Icon Posted: April 13 2008,9:24 am Post # 4 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Check the kick panel on the passengers side by your right foot. it,s been there on my past trucks. sorry for the bad luck. hope it works out.
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Quote (toby @ April 13 2008,9:24 am)
Check the kick panel on the passengers side by your right foot. it,s been there on my past trucks. sorry for the bad luck. hope it works out.

Just got back from the dealership...AAA dropped it off for me.  Found the reset and checked the fuses...nada... :(

If the fuel pump is blown, the dealer will be able to determine if it was due to faulty workmanship by the JL folks... :guns  :good
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Quote (toby @ April 13 2008,9:24 am)
Check the kick panel on the passengers side by your right foot. it,s been there on my past trucks. sorry for the bad luck. hope it works out.

Just got back from the dealership...AAA dropped it off for me.  Found the reset and checked the fuses...nada... :(

If the fuel pump is blown, the dealer will be able to determine if it was due to faulty workmanship by the JL folks... :guns  :good

I would doubt it, unless Jiffy did something really stupid. If they did say Jiffy did it, it could potentially put them in the middle of suit that they want nothing to do with. I think they'll just fix it and take your money. Be prepared for the "you shoud've brought it here speech".

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Post Icon Posted: April 13 2008,11:39 am Post # 7 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
How Plugged Is The Fuel Filter, Now That They Have Broken Everything Loose.....Also, Wouldn't Doubt That the Fuel Pump Has Had Some Junk Go Through It.......Unless They Cleaned The Injectors The Right Way, Through The Fuel Rail ..... Then ????  :stupid

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How Plugged Is The Fuel Filter, Now That They Have Broken Everything Loose.....Also, Wouldn't Doubt That the Fuel Pump Has Had Some Junk Go Through It.......Unless They Cleaned The Injectors The Right Way, Through The Fuel Rail ..... Then ????  :stupid

I wasn't even going to mention clogged injectors. Ouch. I'm betting you nailed this one CE.

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How Plugged Is The Fuel Filter, Now That They Have Broken Everything Loose.....Also, Wouldn't Doubt That the Fuel Pump Has Had Some Junk Go Through It.......Unless They Cleaned The Injectors The Right Way, Through The Fuel Rail ..... Then ????  :stupid

I wasn't even going to mention clogged injectors. Ouch. I'm betting you nailed this one CE.

Likely it is... :beat   When they were flushing the system, medium engine revs and liquid coming out the tailpipe..all I could see.. :stupid
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Post Icon Posted: April 13 2008,5:47 pm Post # 10 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Start at the fuel filter even though its new.....then the fuel pump, test that with a gaugue, finally the injectors if they were "cleaned" imporperly.

Somewhere between the tank and the injectors there is probably some goop broke free during the chemical cleaning. Maybe you can return it to Jiffy Lube and just say "It didnt do this when I brought it to you.....FIX IT!"

Good luck Gary.... :good

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JIFFY LUBE You get what you ask for!.. :rolleyes  :D
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Quote (GoFastRacer @ April 14 2008,5:49 am)
JIFFY LUBE You get what you ask for!.. :rolleyes  :D

:rotflmao  :laugh  :rotflmao  :bowdown  :good   Yep, oil is about all they can handle, I guess... :rolleyes

There's something electrical as well, with all the "needle bounce" goin' on....dealer is checkin' it now... :beat

Either way, it's gonna cost $$$ that I don't really have... :rolleyes

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Post Icon Posted: April 14 2008,3:27 pm Post # 13 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Whatever They Used MayHave Effected The Windings On The Sending Unit.......Some Of The Sending Units Are one Piece With The Fuel Pump..... :eek  :eek

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Well, it is the fuel pump... :beat  Covered under my extended warranty... :jumpie   Battery is going also...causing the needle jumpie stuff... :break

Looks like JL did the filter/system cleaning right... :bowdown
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Well, it is the fuel pump... :beat  Covered under my extended warranty... :jumpie   Battery is going also...causing the needle jumpie stuff... :break

Looks like JL did the filter/system cleaning right... :bowdown

Could have been a expensive ordeal. Glad it worked out for ya. :good

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Yes indeed...about a $900 job... :eek   Think I'll extend that extended warranty a few more years... :good  :beer
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$900 :eek  Glad They Found The Problem!! :good How Long Had It Been Since It Had A Fuel Filter Replaced, Before They Did It??

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$900 :eek  Glad They Found The Problem!! :good How Long Had It Been Since It Had A Fuel Filter Replaced, Before They Did It??

Never... :eek reco FF service was @ 50k... :confused   The tranny and cooling comes up at 60k... :beat
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Quote (shueman @ April 14 2008,3:37 pm)
Well, it is the fuel pump... :beat  Covered under my extended warranty... :jumpie   Battery is going also...causing the needle jumpie stuff... :break

Looks like JL did the filter/system cleaning right... :bowdown

Great news Gary! $900.00 seems a wee bit steep, but hey its under warranty and that's the good part!  :good

Remember when fuel pumps were like $25.00 at Auto Shack??

What the hell happened to American vehicles being easy and cheap to wrench on???

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Kinda What I Guessed....They Should Be Changed Every 15-20K....I've Seen Fuel Pumps Die After A long Time Between Filter Changes.... Guess They Can't Take It When The Restriction Is Taken Away.... :stupid

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Kinda What I Guessed....They Should Be Changed Every 15-20K....I've Seen Fuel Pumps Die After A long Time Between Filter Changes.... Guess They Can't Take It When The Restriction Is Taken Away.... :stupid

Yup,

Just follow the components from the tank to the cylinder. God arranged them to be in increasing order of costliness for a reason!!  :good  :good
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The Ceap Part Is In The Middle Though.....The Filter!! :D

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The Ceap Part Is In The Middle Though.....The Filter!! :D

I'm goin' with every 20k now...thanks ta Glen... :bowdown  :good
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Post Icon Posted: April 14 2008,10:06 pm Post # 24 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
I'm sure the cleansing aggrevated it. Next time drop a bottle of Techron in the tank instead. Fuel systems should stay plenty clean unless you drive around without a cap on.
We'd almost never have a dirty fuel system unless it somehow was contaminated by outside sources.
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I'm sure the cleansing aggrevated it. Next time drop a bottle of Techron in the tank instead.

Will do...thanks for that advice.  It's gonna be our last truck, so gotta keep it runnin' smooth for a long time to come... :beer
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